Prove the following \[ \lim_{x\to 0^+}x\ln(x)=0 \]
The simple brute force application of L'Hoptial rule won't work \[ x\ln(x)=\frac{x}{\left(\ln(x)\right)^{-1}}\\ \lim_{x\to0^+}\frac{x}{\left(\ln(x)\right)^{-1}}=\lim_{x\to0^+}\frac{-1}{x\left(\ln(x)\right)^2} \]
\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0^+} \frac{\ln(x)}{\frac{1}{x}}=\lim_{x \rightarrow 0^+}\frac{\frac{1}{x}}{\frac{-1}{x^2}}=\lim_{x \rightarrow 0^+} -x=0\]
Really clever!
Is that really proving the limit is 0 though? Or is it just finding the limit?
what's the difference?
for example: \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 2} \frac{x^2-4}{x-2}=4 \text{ we can find this limit algebraically } \\ \text{ but this isn't called a proof }\]
we can also find the limit using l'hospital too but I'm also thinking that is not really considered a proof
sadly, it is
so i think
why do we need to prove the limit if we find it algebraically but we finding the limit using l'hospital means we have done the proof already..
http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/258273/how-do-i-prove-that-lim-x%E2%86%920-x%E2%8B%85-ln-x-0 this looks interesting
it looks like someone try to use squeeze theorem
the one with 5 votes
which makes sense to me historically, limits came from trying to make sense of calculus, ie dividing by zero, which is what calculus does so l'Hopital is calculus proving limits. squeeze is geometry.
the one at the bottom is what occurred to me but i don't have the math.
I really like that squeeze theorem junk he did
Maybe if we look harder we can do this for all limits that exist
you know apply squeeze theorem I know sometimes it might be tough
but he's integrating, so he's using limits to prove a limit 😰
I must eat I might return
the sin x / x limit that needs squeeze that is the best example IMHO of where the circularity occurs.
I am asking a proof. \(\lim_{x\to0+}x\ln(x)=0\) is a statement which could be true or false. Therefore, you have to prove it. To express it as a find statement, I would have wrote the following Find the following limit. \[ \lim_{x\to0+}x\ln(x) \] It is pretty much a pointless distinction.
I thought squeeze theorem could be proved independently of the limit you are evaluating. I would not be surprised if you could derive it directly from the delta-epsilon definition of limits. @IrishBoy123
What is wrong with the integration and limit answer? He simply transformed a limit to a easier limit, just like we did using L'Hopital. Where is the circular reasoning? I thought l'Hopital is calculus proving limit but then I checked the proof on wiki. Does not seem like this is the case. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'H%C3%B4pital's_rule
For completeness, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeeze_theorem Squeeze theorem can be proved using delta-epsilon alone.
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