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OpenStudy (nincompoop):

water on Mars https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTlzn1Cce6o

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

She is our serious hope of future astronomy. I can smell..

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

ganeshie

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

if a photo collides with a particle at rest and the rest mass is absorbed can i use linear momentum to find velocity @ganeshie8

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

idk why i ask you this even though you haven't done any particle/quantum/relativity physics

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

or maybe you have idkkk

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

momentum conservation woo

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

conservation of linear momentum works no matter what the velocities are

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

that is one law that works at speeds comparable to light speed too

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

yeah but we have to apply a lorentz factor i think

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

ooh yeah http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/relmom.html

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i don't know special relativity, but i know that linear momemtum doesn't care about it it must be conserved irrespective of the speeds

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Actually you do get different answers close to the speed of light

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

You could try doing non - relativistic calculations and try yourself if you're interested, cool stuff

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

are you saying linear momentum is not conserved at higher speeds ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

how sure are you about that statement ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i don't know special relativit, so i can't do any calculations

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

but from classical mechanics i do know that linear momentum of a system must stay same even at near light speeds

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Naw that's wrong, I could show but I think you need to have some understanding of relativity as everything will be in relativistic terms kind of. We actually just assume that in mechanics, it's pretty cool because there's a whole "einstein dynamics" to it lol it's not arbitrary at all either . Because I just did calculations for speeds close to light and mechanics was off by a pretty large factor compared to the relativistic speed XD

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

are you really saying linear momentum is not conserved at higher speeds ?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Nooooo, it is conserved

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

I guess I shouldn't have said it's wrong, just needs to be tweaked a bit, but I'm still learning this stuff so I could be wrong lolol

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Mechanics is not wrong, but incomplete

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Actually yes, it's not conserved with classical mechanics!

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Because in one inertial frame momentum is conserved but if we use the transformations for another coordinate system momentum is not conserved ahh!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i can't make much sense of those relativity arguments...

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Haha, yeah it's sort of weird, did you check out that book I gave you? I think you would get some of it if you read chapter 1 and 2 as you will understand all the reference frame stuff!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

my textbook says that linear momentum is conserved at light speeds(special relativity) and at sub micron lengths (quantum mechanics)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so i thought we will not have any issues with when a photon strikes an atom. to my classical brain, the linear momentum of photon+atom system must be same before and after the collision

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Must be generalized, I don't know even I get confused by this at times

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Photons are fascinating, it's a whole new physics when you go into that as it will have to do with scattering, the momentum of a photon is \[p = \frac{ E }{ c } = \frac{ h }{ \lambda }\] it's a whole new ball game

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

It has no mass xD!

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

rest mass*

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

this is from halliday 11th chapter

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Well my book is pretty old let me check modern physics because I don't really know what to think of that right now

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

http://puu.sh/lnpwD/8c638c595a.png

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

So kind of like what I said

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Interesting... but i can't really make any sense of that... i lack the relativity juice

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Stick to this book, it's very good!

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

You can see it has a whole section dedicated to modern physics

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Though it's not deriving everything it gives a good sense

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i want to review electromagnetism first, then do quantum mechanics

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

GR is far away...

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

I need to review that as well, I've only done algebraic E&M

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yeah lol

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

I'm going to go over this whole book sometime next year so it will be fun and I'll have lots of questions :P

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Is that same as Young and Freedman university book ?

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yup, my baby

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

The print screen one

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