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OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

http://prntscr.com/93aff4 I feel like I did something wrong.

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

cos (A/2) = sqrt (1-4/5 / 2) = sqrt (1/5 / 2) = sqrt (1/5 • 1/2) = sqrt (1/10)??

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

look at page 2 of the pdf. Notice how it's 1+cos(theta) and not 1-cos(theta) http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/pdf/Trig_Cheat_Sheet.pdf you should have cos(A) = 4/5 since angle A is in QIV hopefully that helps you find cos(A/2)

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

oh so 1- 4/5

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

sorry +

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it should be 1+4/5

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

stupid typos

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

I put + gives me - ugh

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

ok so I got 1•4/5•1/2=4/10=2/5?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hmm strange anyways, the original restrictions on A are that 270 < A < 360 divide EVERY side of that by 2 to get 270 < A < 360 270/2 < A/2 < 360/2 135 < A/2 < 180 So whatever the actual value of A/2 really is, we know that angle A/2 is somewhere in Q2 (between 135 and 180 degrees) so the final result of cos(A/2) will be some negative number since cos is negative in Q2

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

what

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

do you see where it says `270 < A < 360` ?

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

um Astrophysics said do arcsin then use the angle found and divide by 2 to find the rest of the trig functions for A/2

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

I think

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh that will work too

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Okay then thank you

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

tell me what you get

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

ok

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

I got -36.87 degrees

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

same here -36.869897645844 which rounds to -36.87 so that's the approx value of A, but wait a minute, A is supposed to be between 270 and 360. How do we fix this?

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

http://prntscr.com/93aiy6 um idk o-o

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

so then um ... 360-(A/2)?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

we add 360 degrees to find the coterminal angle

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so -36.869897645844 + 360 = 323.130102354157

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

A = 323.130102354157 roughly A/2 = ??

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

323.130/2=161.565

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and then compute the cosine of that to get what?

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

ummm http://prntscr.com/93ajzt

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that result happens if you are in radian mode, but you were previously working in degree mode

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

I used Wolfram haha

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

here http://prntscr.com/93akg1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

A = 323.130102354157 A/2 = 161.565051177079 cos(A/2) = -0.94868329805051 (this is the approximate answer) It turns out that the exact answer is \[\Large \cos\left(\frac{A}{2}\right) = -\frac{3*\sqrt{10}}{10}\] How did I get this? I used the identity off that reference sheet I posted above. Look at the attached PDF to see how I got this exact value Notice how \[\Large -\frac{3*\sqrt{10}}{10} \approx -0.94868329805051\] (use a calculator to evaluate `-3*sqrt(10)/10`) so that confirms the answer in a way

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

wha

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

so -3/10 • sqrt 10

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes since \[\Large -\frac{3}{10}\sqrt{10} = \frac{-3\sqrt{10}}{10}\]

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

ok

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

so http://prntscr.com/93alc3

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

correct

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

okay

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

says it's wrong

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

why does it says A is in Q4, but then changes to say that A is in Q3? I just noticed that

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh wait, maybe the part about A being in Q4 is a hypothetical example. Nvm, let me fix

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

o-o

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok so A is in Q3 which means cos(A) is negative cos(A) = -4/5 (not +4/5) that leads to \(\Large \cos\left(\frac{A}{2}\right) = -\frac{\sqrt{10}}{10}\) The steps are shown in the attached PDF

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

ok

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

so it's -sqr10/10?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yeah

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Okay

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

wow that was very exhausting haha

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yeah it's a lot but after a lot of practice, it should come easier

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

yes thanks :)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're welcome

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

oh um @jim_thompson5910 I still need help haha -- http://prntscr.com/93aonf this one, I can't get a solid number to answer with ^^;

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

the degree I got was 5.77 for A/2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if B is in Q3, then what is the value of cos(B) ?

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

wha

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

hold on lol

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

270-11.54 degrees? then div by 2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Are you familiar with this identity ? \[\Large \sin^2(B) + \cos^2(B) = 1\]

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if sin(B) = -1/5, do you see how to find the value of cos(B) ?

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

OH right yes... Forgot about tha

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

tell me what cos(B) is equal to

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

\[\sqrt{24}\]

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

or\[2\sqrt{6}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

close

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

no? o_o\[\sqrt{5^{2}-1^{2}}=\sqrt{25-1}=\sqrt{24}=2\sqrt{6}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you should have x^2 + (-1/5)^2 = 1^2 x^2 + 1/25 = 1 x^2 = 1 - 1/25 x^2 = 25/25 - 1/25 ... ... ... x = ???

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

what

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

For now, I'm letting cos(B) be unknown. So I'm just calling it x

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sin(B) = -1/5

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

sorry multitasking multiple math questions

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so that's how I got x^2 + (-1/5)^2 = 1 I plugged in sin(B) = -1/5 into that identity shown above

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

wait so did you put the answer or no because I'm not sure where you're going lol

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

no I haven't gotten to the answer yet

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I was just showing how to find cos(B) you'll then use cos(B) for the next step, but you need cos(B) first

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Oh okay gotcha I have to finish in 9 minutes btw

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

So I may not respond as quickly, I mean

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well long story short, you should get \(\Large \cos\left(B\right) = -\frac{2\sqrt{6}}{5}\) you'll plug that into the identity shown on the reference page (study that reference booklet, you'll use those identities a lot) follow the steps shown on the attached pdf I'm sending and you'll get this \[\Large \sin\left(\frac{B}{2}\right) = \sqrt{\frac{5+2\sqrt{6}}{10}}\]\

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Oh, and I'm not sure why this is wrong but it won't accept the other non-theta symbol either so http://prntscr.com/93atzu

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

okay thank you

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you have the right pattern (cos cos minus sin sin) but you have theta showing up twice

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

yeah but it won't accept the other symbol as a registered value in the system

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

should be \[\Large \cos(\theta + \phi) = \cos(\theta)\cos(\phi) - \sin(\theta)\sin(\phi)\]

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

yes but that symbol is unregistered

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

try typing it out like cos(theta + phi) = cos(theta)cos(phi) - sin(theta)sin(phi) kinda strange how they ask you a question and not have a proper way to answer

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

okay

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

WHA! I COPY PASTE AND IT DOESN'T WORK BUT IT WORKS LIKE THIS?

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

AUGH

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

computers can be really picky

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

well time's up, thanks for helping with what you did

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

:)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're welcome

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