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OpenStudy (sethzk):

Cyclists do not wear fancy hats. Brenda is not a cyclist. Therefore, Brenda does not wear fancy hats. Cyclists do not wear fancy hats. Brenda wears fancy hats. Therefore, Brenda is not a cyclist. Cyclists do not wear fancy hats. Brenda does not wear fancy hats. Brenda is a cyclist who does not wear a fancy hat. Cyclists do not wear fancy hats. Brenda is not a cyclist. Therefore, Brenda wears fancy hats

OpenStudy (sethzk):

can someone tell me which is a valid conclusion???

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Hey Seth :) Let's examine the first one: `Cyclists` do not wear fancy hats. Brenda is `not a cyclist.` Based off of these two lines, we can conclude `nothing`. A statement is being made about cyclists, but Brenda is not a cyclist, so we have nothing we can say about Brenda. They told us nothing about people who do not cycle, whether they wear hats or not.

OpenStudy (sethzk):

yes

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Let's jump down to the last option: Cyclists do not wear fancy hats. Brenda is not a cyclist. Therefore, Brenda wears fancy hats Any ideas on this one? It should be similar reasoning to the first option?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

It should be similar reasoning to the first option*

OpenStudy (sethzk):

it contradicts though...

OpenStudy (sethzk):

oh wait nvm

OpenStudy (sethzk):

Brenda is a cyclist who does not wear a fancy hat. Cyclists do not wear fancy hats. Brenda is not a cyclist. Therefore, Brenda wears fancy hats that is one choice right?

OpenStudy (sethzk):

or is the last option something you add to the other options?

OpenStudy (sethzk):

the last line

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Each 3 lines is a choice. --------------------------------------------- Cyclists do not wear fancy hats. Brenda is not a cyclist. Therefore, Brenda does not wear fancy hats. --------------------------------------------- Cyclists do not wear fancy hats. Brenda wears fancy hats. Therefore, Brenda is not a cyclist. --------------------------------------------- Cyclists do not wear fancy hats. Brenda does not wear fancy hats. Brenda is a cyclist who does not wear a fancy hat. --------------------------------------------- Cyclists do not wear fancy hats. Brenda is not a cyclist. Therefore, Brenda wears fancy hats

OpenStudy (sethzk):

i apologize I understand the question it was formatted oddly

zepdrix (zepdrix):

This is what we did for the first option: --------------------------------------------- `Cyclists do not wear fancy hats.` `Brenda is not a cyclist.` **Nothing can be said about Brenda, we have no information regarding people who are NOT cyclists. --------------------------------------------- Cyclists do not wear fancy hats. Brenda wears fancy hats. Therefore, Brenda is not a cyclist. --------------------------------------------- Cyclists do not wear fancy hats. Brenda does not wear fancy hats. Brenda is a cyclist who does not wear a fancy hat. --------------------------------------------- Cyclists do not wear fancy hats. Brenda is not a cyclist. Therefore, Brenda wears fancy hats

OpenStudy (sethzk):

and while youre here do you have time for a final question?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Did you figure out the right one? :o

OpenStudy (sethzk):

yes option 2 right?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ah yes, good job! :)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Sure, what else you got?

OpenStudy (sethzk):

Read the statements shown below: If a polygon has three sides, it is a triangle. If an angle of a triangle measures 90°, it is a right triangle. Beth constructed a triangle in the geometry class. Based on the given statements, which is a valid argument? It can be concluded that Beth drew a triangle with an angle measure of 45°. It cannot be concluded that Beth drew a right triangle. It can be concluded that Beth drew a scalene triangle. It cannot be concluded that Beth drew a polygon.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

If a polygon has three sides, it is a triangle. If an angle of a triangle measures 90°, it is a right triangle. You want to think about these backwards. I could say that: `If I drew a right triangle` It should logically follow that: `I drew a triangle with an angle measuring 90 degrees` If I say: `I drew a triangle` It should logically follow that: `I drew a polygon` Do you see how you use that information in reverse?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Oh they didn't give us that option though :) haha They threw in some other funky options. Ok let's see..

OpenStudy (sethzk):

no... yea

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So it always works going backwards. Polygon <-- Triangle <-- 90 degree angle <-- Right Triangle But it doesn't necessarily work in the other direction. Just because she drew a triangle, this does not guarantee that she drew a triangle with a 90 degree angle.

OpenStudy (sethzk):

yea...

zepdrix (zepdrix):

We can immediately get rid of the last option, ya? `It cannot be concluded that Beth drew a polygon.` We know that it's guaranteed that Beth drew a polygon if she drew a triangle.

OpenStudy (sethzk):

yes

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So we have this situation: Triangle --> ??? Maybe she drew a Right triangle, maybe she drew a triangle with a 45 degree angle, maybe she drew an obtuse triangle with angles measuring 2, 4, and 174 degrees. We just can't say for sure.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Still unsure? :)

OpenStudy (sethzk):

got it

OpenStudy (sethzk):

the second option right?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

`It cannot be concluded that Beth drew a right triangle.` Yay good job \c:/

OpenStudy (sethzk):

thank you

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