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OpenStudy (babynini):
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OpenStudy (babynini):
@amistre64 you free? :)
OpenStudy (amistre64):
what is a linear expression?
OpenStudy (babynini):
hm? o.o
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OpenStudy (babynini):
[oh for the second one under position I got: -16(t-3)^2+297(t-3)+297 which is correct] I just need the last on on the velocity and the last two on position D:
OpenStudy (amistre64):
how did you figure out the others on velocity?
OpenStudy (babynini):
did current velocity and displacement haha probably a lot more complicated than I had to make it.
OpenStudy (babynini):
I pretty much guessed at how to do it. I don't really understand it that well.
OpenStudy (amistre64):
given an acceleration, we can find an antiderivative to define velocity
knowing velocity, we can find an antiderivative to define position
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
if a = 66t, then v = 66t^2/2 + c
OpenStudy (babynini):
and c was 0 in that case.
OpenStudy (amistre64):
that does appear to be the case
OpenStudy (amistre64):
after the fuel runs out, gravity is accelerating it and you are at a velocity starting at 297
-32(t-3) +297 is fine, but it may help to distribute and combine the constants just to be safe
OpenStudy (amistre64):
-32t +96+297 antiderives to what?
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
the distribution prolly isnt all that important
OpenStudy (babynini):
can I just add the 96+297? haha
OpenStudy (amistre64):
you can yes
OpenStudy (babynini):
-16t^2+393t
OpenStudy (amistre64):
right, or
-32(t-3)^2/2 + 297(t-3)+ the height it was at when this leg started
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
or maybe that takes care of the height .... never tried to not distribute first
OpenStudy (babynini):
mm well I guess it does since it's right xD o.o
OpenStudy (amistre64):
wohoo
OpenStudy (babynini):
Mhm. Just the last one needs some work haha
OpenStudy (babynini):
when t>23
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
if something doesnt change, what do we call it?
OpenStudy (amistre64):
... it remains the same, itis constant
OpenStudy (amistre64):
what is the velocity at t=23?
OpenStudy (babynini):
I just plug that into the original velocity one? (the first one?)
OpenStudy (amistre64):
of course not, the start of the last leg is determined by the leg before it ...
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OpenStudy (babynini):
Wait that's before it slows down =.= sorry. Just a sec.
OpenStudy (babynini):
-23?
OpenStudy (babynini):
oh yay that's it. woop.
So now for position I have the first two done.
OpenStudy (amistre64):
you should be able to do all of them now. antiderivatives of linear stuff is rather elementary and youve already done 2 of them
OpenStudy (babynini):
I always am messing up when I get to the constant part. Like trying to figure that out.
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OpenStudy (babynini):
like 11t^3 I got because it is simply the anti derivative of the first one of velocity.
OpenStudy (amistre64):
and when t=0,our starting position is .... well 0 isnt it?
OpenStudy (babynini):
Yep yep
OpenStudy (amistre64):
we get our starting position from the last position we were at which is determined by the position equation above it
OpenStudy (babynini):
so the second we would get from..3?
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OpenStudy (babynini):
plugging 3 into the first one to get the constant for the second one?
OpenStudy (amistre64):
at 3 seconds we are starting at a position of 11(3)^3
OpenStudy (amistre64):
yes
OpenStudy (babynini):
the third one's constant we would get from plugging 18 into the second?
OpenStudy (amistre64):
yep
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OpenStudy (babynini):
hmm that comes out to 1152. Is that correct? it seems large xD
OpenStudy (babynini):
16(t-3)^2-183(t-3)+1152
is incorrect.
OpenStudy (babynini):
because of the change of the time that it's falling at perhaps.
OpenStudy (amistre64):
what we got for velocities are:
v1= 33t^2
v2= -32t +393
v3= 32t - 759
v4= -23
right?
OpenStudy (babynini):
yeah.
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
was position number 2 correct?
-16(t-3) +297(t-3) ?
OpenStudy (amistre64):
ugh, forgot a ^2
OpenStudy (babynini):
position 2: -16(t-3)^2+297(t-3)+297 was correct
OpenStudy (amistre64):
11*3^3 = 297 so that was our constant
OpenStudy (amistre64):
what would you say is position 3?
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OpenStudy (babynini):
uh well if we plug 18 into the second velocity we get -183
OpenStudy (amistre64):
position, we want position not velocity
OpenStudy (babynini):
16(t-3)^2-183(t-3)+1152
for the third position but it's wrong. I Got the 1152 from plugging 18 into the second position.
OpenStudy (amistre64):
-16(t-3)^2+297(t-3)+297, at t=18 is 1152 to start the next leg with
OpenStudy (amistre64):
t-18 not t-3
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OpenStudy (babynini):
oh gotcha. o.o Yeah it's right now then haha
OpenStudy (amistre64):
and the last one?
OpenStudy (babynini):
637?
OpenStudy (babynini):
for the constant
OpenStudy (amistre64):
637 for constant good
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OpenStudy (babynini):
__(t-23)+637
I'm unsure what the first number is
OpenStudy (amistre64):
-23 of course
OpenStudy (amistre64):
v4= -23
p4 = -23(t-23)+ 637
OpenStudy (amistre64):
for a constant: k
the antiderivative is: kt + c
OpenStudy (babynini):
oh yes yes. ok! so velocity and position are all correct now
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
i would hope so :)
OpenStudy (babynini):
haha yay!!
Now part b! xP
OpenStudy (babynini):
so max height would be when the first velocity = 0?
OpenStudy (amistre64):
good luck with it ... ive got work in the morning so im heading out
OpenStudy (babynini):
Haha thanks so much for all your help :)
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OpenStudy (amistre64):
max height is when velocity = 0
test each velocity for 0 and see if t is in the interval
OpenStudy (amistre64):
in some cases, it may be a min or a max so knowing how it looks graphically might be useful