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OpenStudy (curry):

Question with probability!

OpenStudy (curry):

part a, i got 1/32

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@dan815 @ganeshie8

OpenStudy (curry):

I'm kinda lost for part b, do we just take the individual probabilities of each money amount and then average?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

your part a looks wrong

OpenStudy (curry):

really? how do i revise it? or where am I going wrong ?

OpenStudy (curry):

i thought it'd be just 1/2*x, where x equals each level.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

probabilities must add up to 1 in your case they don't

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you have 6 bins and you're saying that each probability is 1/32 since all the probabilities must add up to 1 and 1/32 + 1/32 + 1/32 + 1/32 + 1/32 + 1/32 is not 1 your answer cannot be correct

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Consider bin2 can you tell me how you got 1/32 ?

OpenStudy (curry):

Oh, i see what you're saying. So does that mean, i'll have 3 cases? For i = 1,6; i = 2,5; i = 3,4? sorry, for the delayed response.

OpenStudy (curry):

but in that case, we still have to model it for i, so how wuld we do that? cause if it was to be modelled by the dolar amount, that'd make sense.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

something like that

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Look at bin2 how many routes are there form top arrow to bin2 ? |dw:1448848793880:dw|

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

each route consists of "four left" and "one right", yes ?

OpenStudy (curry):

um, sorry, i'm not sure what you mean

OpenStudy (curry):

oh wait, yes, i get it now.

OpenStudy (curry):

similarily, there are 4 right and 1 left for bin 5.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so how many total routes are there from top arrow to bin2 ?

OpenStudy (curry):

um, 2^5?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

remember the grid problem that we did few days ago ?

OpenStudy (curry):

mhmm

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

4L and 1R so a route may look like this : LLLRL

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

how many different strings are possible that contain 4L and 1R ?

OpenStudy (curry):

So 32C2?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

really ? try again

OpenStudy (curry):

5C1

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or 5C4 right?

OpenStudy (curry):

similar for bin 5.

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and then for bin 3, we need 3 left and 2 right. So, 5C3 or 5C2 right?

OpenStudy (curry):

and for bin 1 and 6, it's just 1 for each right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes!

OpenStudy (curry):

so 32 total paths. and then for 1,6, we have 1/32 each. and for 2,5, we have 5/32 each. and then for 3,4, we have 10/32 each

OpenStudy (curry):

that makes wonderufl sense! thank you so much! Ganeshie, i've struggled for probability for so long, adn you're really helpful, thank you!

OpenStudy (curry):

So, based on this new probability, i'd have to analyze the amount of money they would win righ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Looks good !

OpenStudy (curry):

so do i just say 15.625%*2 chance of winning 500$?

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and so on? for the other amounts? 15.625 = 5/32

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes, for part b : expected money = 1000*1/32 + 500*5/32 + 100*10/32 + 100*10/32 + 500*5/32 + 1000*1/32

OpenStudy (curry):

ANd for part c, do we just recalculate part a, with the maximum number of steps decreased by one for each combinatorics operation and the total steps being 16, instead of 32? and then having calculated this, we recalculate part b for these new values right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Exactly !

OpenStudy (curry):

thank you!

OpenStudy (curry):

part d is that it takes left twice.

OpenStudy (curry):

Lastly, for modeling the dice question, i posted my solution so far and I believe it works without any endless loops (regardless of how small the probability of that happeneing is.) just a heads up for that one also.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

part d should be : 1/8 for i=1,4 (3C1)/8 for i=2,3 1000*(1/8) + 500(3/8) + 100(3/8) + \(\color{red}{100}\)(1/8) = \(\color{red}{362.5}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

right ?

OpenStudy (curry):

oh right! yes, part d should be that! thank yoU!

OpenStudy (curry):

So do you think my part c and d are coherent?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes everything else looks good

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

part b and part c have same answers : 281.25 this is a bit surprising yeah

OpenStudy (curry):

but i'm not actually miscalculating anything am I? perhaps the change in value amount that we're not adding in is just the right amount to not add in to get the same answer if we had one extra option to turn.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yeah i thought the same...

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