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OpenStudy (anonymous):

integral problem involving e^x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits \frac{ 3 }{ 5e^x -2 }dx \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i tried multiplying the top and bottom by the conjugate but that didnt seem to help and i also tried adding and subtracting 5e^x to the top but that trick didn't really help either

OpenStudy (superdavesuper):

try substitution u=5E^x-2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but that leaves a 1/5e^x

OpenStudy (superdavesuper):

correct...u take care of that by integrate by parts then

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmmm so (3/5e^x)(1/u) would be the problem that i need to take care of by integration by parts?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

couldn't i simplify that to like 3/(u^2 +2u)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[5e^x-2=\left( \sqrt{5}e^{\frac{ x }{ 2 }}+\sqrt{2} \right)\left( \sqrt{5}e^{\frac{ x }{ 2 }}-\sqrt{2} \right)\]

OpenStudy (superdavesuper):

@pgpilot326 ty :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let u be one of the factors

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so you factored the denominator but how does letting u be one of the factors help?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

doesn't really... hold on and let me think a minute...

OpenStudy (superdavesuper):

ans is right here: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+3%2F%285e%5Ex-2%29dx so i think it is just substitution then followed by IBP...gtg...good luck :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

might have to do straight up by parts

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so if do like @superdavesuper says then i would take 5e^x -2 as u

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that would leave me with 3/(5e^xu)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would i start doing integration by parts from there or would i make the 5e^x into (u+2) since 5e^x -2 = u so 5e^x = u + 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you let u = 5e^x-2 then du = 5e^x dx =( u+2) dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

multiply numerator and denominator by \[e ^{-x}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then it becomes integral of 3du + 3/u du

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3u +3ln|u| +c = 3(5e^x-2)+3ln|5e^x-2| + c can check if derivative is original integrand

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[I=\int\limits \frac{ 2e ^{-x} }{ 5-2e ^{-x} }dx=?\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so @surjithayer (3/2)(ln(5-2e^-x)) + C

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@surjithayer you put a 2 instead of a 3 on the top

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry i goofed. @surjithayer has the easiest way.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's ok but im sure your way is still equivalent though

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes ,it is 3 in the numerator.,thanks for the correction.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not too sure... it get's a bit messy and i don't think it resolves into something integrable

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok well thank you for the help, i still have a lot of tricks and experience to accumulate in math

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