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OpenStudy (studygurl14):

last one @jim_thompson5910

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

I have no idea how to do this

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large h(x) = \frac{f(x)}{x}\] are you able to compute what `h ' (x) ` would be? (in terms of x and f(x))

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hint: quotient rule

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

\[h'=\frac{ f'x-f }{ x }\]

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

how can I solve that if I don't know the equation of f(x)

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

sorry, bottom is x^2

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

we know f=3 and f(3)=10

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

so, h'=(3f'-10)/9

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

now, f'=-1 from graph, so h'=-13/9

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you don't need to know f(x) itself you just need to use the quotient rule to get \[\Large h(x) = \frac{f(x)}{x}\] \[\Large h \ '(x) = \frac{f \ '(x)*x-f(x)*1}{x^2}\] \[\Large h \ '(x) = \frac{f \ '(x)*x-f(x)}{x^2}\] does that make sense?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

ah, I see.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

I forgot they gave you the values for f(3)

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

so y=-13/9x+b

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

x=3, y=h=10/3

OpenStudy (caozeyuan):

now solve for b and you are done

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

thank you so much! You're amazing b = 23/3

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Thank you both for your help. Thanks for sticking with me this far @jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes you'll then replace x with 3 f(3) = 10 so \[\Large h \ '(x) = \frac{f '(x)*x-f(x)}{x^2}\] \[\Large h \ '(3) = \frac{f '(3)*3-f(3)}{3^2}\] \[\Large h \ '(3) = \frac{3*f \ '(3)-10}{9}\] the question is: how to find f ' (3)? This value is not given to us. But we can approximate it by following these steps step 1) mark the points A,B,C (see attached) step 2) find the slope of AB step 3) find the slope of BC step 4) average the two slopes (AB and BC) this will give you an approximate value of f ' (3)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ideally we get as close to x = 3 as possible, but this is as close as we can get

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Awesome. Again, thank you so much. :)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

no problem

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Actually, isn't the value of f'(x) given at the point (3,-1) ?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh wow, now it's my turn to mix up f and f ' my bad lol

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yeah they provided (3,-1) on f ' so f ' (3) = -1

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

so, would h ' = -13/9

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

h ' (3) = -13/9, yes

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

and that would be the equation for the line tangent to h(x) at x = 3?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's the slope of the tangent line on h(x) at x = 3

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

ah, so plug into equation for a line. got it

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

thx again :)

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

oh, and would you plug in 10 for y?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

h(x) = f(x)/x h(3) = f(3)/3 ... replace every x with 3 h(3) = 10/3 ... replace f(3) with 10 the y coordinate is actually 10/3

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

ok, thanks. Again, lol. I promise you can leave now.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you already found it above when you solved \[\Large y = mx+b\] \[\Large \frac{10}{3} = -\frac{13}{9}*3 + b\] for b to get b = 23/3

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so your tangent line equation is \[\Large y = -\frac{13}{9}x + \frac{23}{3}\]

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

oh, yeah...duh. How did I miss that?

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