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OpenStudy (anonymous):
please help, explanation would be greatly appreciated (picture included
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
OpenStudy (baru):
what we need to know is
velocity=rate of change of position with respect to time
so, V=dx/dt
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so we find the derivatives of both particles
OpenStudy (baru):
so to find \(v_1 ~and ~v_2\)
differentiate \(x_1~and~x_2\) with respect to t
OpenStudy (baru):
yep
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes one moment
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so would x=cos2t x'=0?
OpenStudy (baru):
no,
\[\frac{d(cosax)}{dx}=-asin(ax)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
shoot, so -2sin(2t)
OpenStudy (baru):
yep
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
and the next one we would use the d/dx a^u= (lna)(a^u)(u') ?
OpenStudy (baru):
yes :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so (lne)(e^((t-3)/2))([quotient rule] ((2)(1)-(t-3)(0))/4)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
(1/2)(e^((t-3)/2))
OpenStudy (baru):
you shouldnt use the quotient rule here, you should use it when there are "variables" in the numerator and denominator
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
isn't t a variable though?
OpenStudy (baru):
\[x=e^{\frac{t-3}{2}}-0.75\]
OpenStudy (baru):
yes, 't' is only in the numerator, the denominator is a constant
OpenStudy (baru):
\[dx/dt=e^{\frac{t-3}{2}}\times \]
OpenStudy (baru):
ahh...ignore that
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OpenStudy (baru):
\[dx/dt=e^{\frac{t-3}{2}} \times \frac{d (\frac{t-3}{2})}{dt}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
that is very complex...
OpenStudy (baru):
no..i've just used your rule
OpenStudy (baru):
ln(a)(a^u)u'
OpenStudy (anonymous):
from what i understand then that would be e^((t-3)/2) * (2/t)?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
the u' is messing me up, i'm not sure how to find it
OpenStudy (baru):
\[u=\frac{t-3}{2}\\u=\frac{t}{2}-3/2\\u'=\frac{1}{2}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so i see we split up the numerator, but i don't understand how we get 1/2 I am so sorry
OpenStudy (baru):
i'm using formulas of differentiation
derivative of a constant=0 so the (-3/2) becomes zero
and
\[\frac{d(ax)}{dx}=a\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
alright so the answer would be e^((t-3)/2)*(1/2)
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OpenStudy (baru):
yes
OpenStudy (baru):
now we have v1 and v2
OpenStudy (baru):
the question asks us to find when the two velocities are the same,
so v1=v2
OpenStudy (baru):
\[-2\sin2t=\frac{1}{2}e^{\frac{t-3}{2}}\]
OpenStudy (baru):
@CadenN
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i dont know how to do that
OpenStudy (anonymous):
we multiply both sides by 2
OpenStudy (baru):
this cannot be done using algebra
the question says (calculator),j so you should use a calculator
OpenStudy (baru):
u have such a calculator?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i have a graphing calcualtor
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OpenStudy (baru):
yes, use that to plot v1 and v2, see where the graphs intersect
OpenStudy (anonymous):
do we just start pluging in values from between 0 and 2pi
OpenStudy (baru):
no, graph the functions
OpenStudy (anonymous):
THAT IS SO SO SIMPLE
OpenStudy (anonymous):
WHY DONT I THINK OF THESE THINGS????
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i am SOO sorry
OpenStudy (baru):
haha, i see you have a lot of enthusiasm for mathematics,
don't worry, i knew what do only because i've done the several times already :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thank you so much for helping me i'm so clueless sometimes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
my calcualtor shows three points of intersection
OpenStudy (baru):
well, then the answer is 3 :)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Thank you SO much
OpenStudy (baru):
but, does it actually tell you what the points are?
because the question says "between t=0 and t=2pi"
OpenStudy (anonymous):
well it tells me the intersections on a x- y scale
OpenStudy (baru):
so x=t?
in that case u should consider points x<2pi
OpenStudy (anonymous):
2pi = 6.283
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so x has to be < 6.283 right?
OpenStudy (baru):
yep
OpenStudy (anonymous):
all the point have x coordinates below 6
OpenStudy (baru):
then go with three :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
thank you
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OpenStudy (baru):
hey, can you check your graphs again, i seem to getting 4 points
OpenStudy (baru):
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ooohhhh this proves i should always zoom in
OpenStudy (baru):
lol
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
this will definitely come in handy, thank you @baru