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OpenStudy (anonymous):

please help, explanation would be greatly appreciated (picture included

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (baru):

what we need to know is velocity=rate of change of position with respect to time so, V=dx/dt

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so we find the derivatives of both particles

OpenStudy (baru):

so to find \(v_1 ~and ~v_2\) differentiate \(x_1~and~x_2\) with respect to t

OpenStudy (baru):

yep

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes one moment

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so would x=cos2t x'=0?

OpenStudy (baru):

no, \[\frac{d(cosax)}{dx}=-asin(ax)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

shoot, so -2sin(2t)

OpenStudy (baru):

yep

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and the next one we would use the d/dx a^u= (lna)(a^u)(u') ?

OpenStudy (baru):

yes :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so (lne)(e^((t-3)/2))([quotient rule] ((2)(1)-(t-3)(0))/4)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(1/2)(e^((t-3)/2))

OpenStudy (baru):

you shouldnt use the quotient rule here, you should use it when there are "variables" in the numerator and denominator

OpenStudy (anonymous):

isn't t a variable though?

OpenStudy (baru):

\[x=e^{\frac{t-3}{2}}-0.75\]

OpenStudy (baru):

yes, 't' is only in the numerator, the denominator is a constant

OpenStudy (baru):

\[dx/dt=e^{\frac{t-3}{2}}\times \]

OpenStudy (baru):

ahh...ignore that

OpenStudy (baru):

\[dx/dt=e^{\frac{t-3}{2}} \times \frac{d (\frac{t-3}{2})}{dt}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is very complex...

OpenStudy (baru):

no..i've just used your rule

OpenStudy (baru):

ln(a)(a^u)u'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from what i understand then that would be e^((t-3)/2) * (2/t)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the u' is messing me up, i'm not sure how to find it

OpenStudy (baru):

\[u=\frac{t-3}{2}\\u=\frac{t}{2}-3/2\\u'=\frac{1}{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i see we split up the numerator, but i don't understand how we get 1/2 I am so sorry

OpenStudy (baru):

i'm using formulas of differentiation derivative of a constant=0 so the (-3/2) becomes zero and \[\frac{d(ax)}{dx}=a\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright so the answer would be e^((t-3)/2)*(1/2)

OpenStudy (baru):

yes

OpenStudy (baru):

now we have v1 and v2

OpenStudy (baru):

the question asks us to find when the two velocities are the same, so v1=v2

OpenStudy (baru):

\[-2\sin2t=\frac{1}{2}e^{\frac{t-3}{2}}\]

OpenStudy (baru):

@CadenN

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont know how to do that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we multiply both sides by 2

OpenStudy (baru):

this cannot be done using algebra the question says (calculator),j so you should use a calculator

OpenStudy (baru):

u have such a calculator?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have a graphing calcualtor

OpenStudy (baru):

yes, use that to plot v1 and v2, see where the graphs intersect

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do we just start pluging in values from between 0 and 2pi

OpenStudy (baru):

no, graph the functions

OpenStudy (anonymous):

THAT IS SO SO SIMPLE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

WHY DONT I THINK OF THESE THINGS????

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i am SOO sorry

OpenStudy (baru):

haha, i see you have a lot of enthusiasm for mathematics, don't worry, i knew what do only because i've done the several times already :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much for helping me i'm so clueless sometimes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

my calcualtor shows three points of intersection

OpenStudy (baru):

well, then the answer is 3 :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you SO much

OpenStudy (baru):

but, does it actually tell you what the points are? because the question says "between t=0 and t=2pi"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well it tells me the intersections on a x- y scale

OpenStudy (baru):

so x=t? in that case u should consider points x<2pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2pi = 6.283

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so x has to be < 6.283 right?

OpenStudy (baru):

yep

OpenStudy (anonymous):

all the point have x coordinates below 6

OpenStudy (baru):

then go with three :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you

OpenStudy (baru):

hey, can you check your graphs again, i seem to getting 4 points

OpenStudy (baru):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ooohhhh this proves i should always zoom in

OpenStudy (baru):

lol

OpenStudy (baru):

https://www.desmos.com/calculator this is the website i used to graph that, you might find it useful later on :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this will definitely come in handy, thank you @baru

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