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OpenStudy (anonymous):

please help, explanation would be greatly appreciated (picture included)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (danjs):

y=2*e^cos(x) \[\frac{ dy }{ dt } = 5 unit/s\]

OpenStudy (danjs):

do a d/dt to both sides of that equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

to which equation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

to dy/d=2(lne)(e^cosx)(-sinx)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i mean that that is the derivative of y=2e^cosx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im sorry but i dont know what that means

OpenStudy (danjs):

y is a function of x is a function of t, y--->x--->t

OpenStudy (danjs):

y ( x(t))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would t be the 5 units per second?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no nvm i know that wrong

OpenStudy (danjs):

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OpenStudy (danjs):

to get from y to the t, you do dy/dx * dx/dt

OpenStudy (danjs):

notice that is dy/dt = (dy/dx)*(dx/dt) -- both sides same

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright what do we do next?

OpenStudy (danjs):

the thing is compounded like that \[y(x[t]) = 2e^{\cos[(x(t)]}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and we need to find the derivative of that equation

OpenStudy (danjs):

they give you some info dy/dx = 5 unit/s always x = pi/2 they want you to find dx/dt at the instant when the angle x(t) is pi/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont understadn how i would do that

OpenStudy (danjs):

*dy/dt = 5 mistype

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i still dont get it im very sorry

OpenStudy (danjs):

dy/dt = dy/dx * dx/dt take derivative w.r.t. x first, then w.r.t t

OpenStudy (anonymous):

whst is w.r.t

OpenStudy (danjs):

with respect to,

OpenStudy (danjs):

dy/dt = dy/dx * dx/dt

OpenStudy (danjs):

derivative of y w.r.t.x times derivative of x w.r.t t

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how am i supposed to do that if i dont know what dy/dx is or dx/dt

OpenStudy (anonymous):

all i know is that dy/dt is 5 units/sec

OpenStudy (danjs):

like remember doing chain rule derivatives... you have to multiply by the derivative of the inner function ex [ d/dx] * cos(x^2+2) = -sin(x^2+2) * ( 2x)

OpenStudy (danjs):

anyway here...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks for trying but i have somewhere i be in an hour and i have to leave now, if i wasn't in a hurry i could probably understand it better thank you

OpenStudy (danjs):

\[\large y = 2e^{\cos(x)}\] derivative with respect to x, d/dx both sides

OpenStudy (danjs):

\[\large \frac{ dy }{ dx } = -2*\sin(x) *e^{\cos(x)}\]

OpenStudy (danjs):

a step further realizing xis a function of t, the chain rule gives you dy/dt \[\huge \frac{ d }{d t }=\frac{ dy }{ dx }*\frac{ dx }{ dt }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but thats what i said was the derivative at the beginning!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so we just solve for dx/dt next?

OpenStudy (danjs):

no actual x(t) function is said, so just add that dx/dt on the end \[\frac{ dy }{ dt } = \large \frac{ dy }{ dx } * \frac{ dx }{ dt } = -2*\sin(x) *e^{\cos(x)} * \frac{ dx }{ dt }\]

OpenStudy (danjs):

use that to figure the rate x is changing with the time, dx/dt, when x is that given angle 5 = -2*sin(x)*e^(cos(x)) * [dx/dt]

OpenStudy (danjs):

\[5 = -2*\sin(\pi/2)*e^{\cos(\pi/2)}* \frac{ dx }{ dt }\]

OpenStudy (danjs):

5 = -2 * 1 * 1 * dx/dt dx/dt = 5/-2 unit/sec

OpenStudy (danjs):

just need to practice the chain rule thing for nested functions to get dy/dt you have to do d/dx first and multiply by dx/dt

OpenStudy (danjs):

like A [ B [ C [ D(x) ] ] ] same, to get to dA/dx there, you need dA/dB * dB/dC * dC/dD * dD/dx = dA*/Dx

OpenStudy (danjs):

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