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OpenStudy (thecalchater):

I need some calculus help...

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

OpenStudy (miss.rose):

I don't know calculus, however I know a website that can help you. http://www.mathway.com It's called Mathway. It really works!

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

@Miss.Rose I have tried it.... it wont work for this problem

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

I am leaning towards B. Any opinions?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you agree that the volume of a cube formula is `V = s^3` right?

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

yes volume is s^3 or L*W*H

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well L, W, H are all equal to s so that's how L*W*H = s*s*s = s^3

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

apply the derivative with respect to s on V = s^3 to get dV/ds = ???

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

right so how would i find the volume and surface area if there is room for error?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

V = s^3 dV/ds = _______ (fill in the blank)

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

3

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

not just 3

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

3s?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

more like 3s^2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hopefully you learned the power rule?

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

yeah i see now u wanted me to take the derivative

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

now that we have the first derivative do we need to find the second?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

no

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

we're going to use differentials

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

ok (and yeah i know the power rule :) )

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

dV/ds = 3s^2 dV = 3s^2*ds ... multiply both sides by `ds`

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

what is ds equal to?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

s = 17 is the measured side length ds = 0.08 is the error in the measured side length

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ds is the differential in s

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

oh ok

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

ok now what do i do?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

dV is the differential in volume (aka the error in volume)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

plug in s = 17 and ds = 0.08 and evaluate

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

1179.12

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

too large

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

dV = 3s^2*ds dV = 3*17^2*0.08 dV = _______________ (fill in the blank)

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

right when i plugged in and multiplied that is what i got

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

oh wait nvm

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

69.36

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

so it is d...

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes, let's also do the surface area as well A = surface area A = 6s^2 dA/ds = 12s dA = 12s*ds s = 17 and ds = 0.08 dA = 12s*ds dA = 12*17*0.08 dA = ???

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

16.32! Thank you so much. Do you think you can help me with a few more?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sure

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

ok there are three more i think i have a good start to cal 1

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

Also i appreciate you helping me understand instead of giving me the answers (i hate when people do that) :)

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

Any ideas?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

one moment

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

were you able to find f ' (x) ?

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

for which one?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the first one. It's better to post one at a time to avoid confusion like this

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

ok give me a second

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

x(2x+1)−1/2+(2x+1)1/2

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

for d. i kow there are not any horizontal asymptotes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

`for d. i kow there are not any horizontal asymptotes` that is correct

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

and for a. I dont think there are any critical numbers when i put it into my calc it says error

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I'm assuming you meant to write this? \[\Large f \ '(x) = x(2x+1)^{-1/2} + (2x+1)^{1/2}\]

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

yes

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

sorry the way i copied it from my calc didnt do it witth the ^

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Let's factor out the GCF \[\Large f \ '(x) = x(2x+1)^{-1/2} + (2x+1)^{1/2}\] \[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(x(2x+1)^{-1} + 1\right)\]

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Then a bit of simplification \[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(x(2x+1)^{-1} + 1\right)\] \[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(\frac{x}{2x+1} + 1\right)\] \[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(\frac{x}{2x+1} + 1*\frac{2x+1}{2x+1}\right)\] \[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(\frac{x}{2x+1} + \frac{2x+1}{2x+1}\right)\] \[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(\frac{x+2x+1}{2x+1}\right)\] \[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(\frac{3x+1}{2x+1}\right)\] \[\Large f \ '(x) = \frac{(2x+1)^{1/2}}{2x+1}(3x+1)\] \[\Large f \ '(x) = \frac{(2x+1)^{1/2}}{(2x+1)^1}(3x+1)\] \[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2-1}(3x+1)\] \[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{-1/2}(3x+1)\] \[\Large f \ '(x) = \frac{3x+1}{\sqrt{2x+1}}\] Hopefully you agree with all of these steps?

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

give me a second to check it

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

yep looks good

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

to find the critical values, you need to solve `f ' (x) = 0`

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large f \ '(x) = \frac{3x+1}{\sqrt{2x+1}}\] \[\Large 0 = \frac{3x+1}{\sqrt{2x+1}}\] x = ???

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

x=-1/3

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

so a is -1/3 :)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok and we also need to look to see where f ' (x) is undefined AND where f(x) is defined what happens when you set the denominator of f ' (x) equal to 0 and solve for x?

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

it is undefined

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sqrt(2x+1) = 0 leads to x = ???

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

x=1/2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

-1/2 actually

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

so the critical points are -1/3 and -1/2?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the domain of f is x >= -1/2 so this solution is in the domain of f

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

correct

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

ok how do we do part b?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

draw out a number line and plot the following on it -1/2 = -0.5 -1/3 = -0.3333....

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

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OpenStudy (thecalchater):

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