now that we have the first derivative do we need to find the second?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
no
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
we're going to use differentials
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OpenStudy (thecalchater):
ok (and yeah i know the power rule :) )
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
dV/ds = 3s^2
dV = 3s^2*ds ... multiply both sides by `ds`
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
what is ds equal to?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
s = 17 is the measured side length
ds = 0.08 is the error in the measured side length
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
ds is the differential in s
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OpenStudy (thecalchater):
oh ok
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
ok now what do i do?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
dV is the differential in volume (aka the error in volume)
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
plug in s = 17 and ds = 0.08 and evaluate
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
1179.12
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
too large
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
dV = 3s^2*ds
dV = 3*17^2*0.08
dV = _______________ (fill in the blank)
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
right when i plugged in and multiplied that is what i got
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
oh wait nvm
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
69.36
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OpenStudy (thecalchater):
so it is d...
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
yes, let's also do the surface area as well
A = surface area
A = 6s^2
dA/ds = 12s
dA = 12s*ds
s = 17 and ds = 0.08
dA = 12s*ds
dA = 12*17*0.08
dA = ???
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
16.32! Thank you so much. Do you think you can help me with a few more?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
sure
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OpenStudy (thecalchater):
ok there are three more i think i have a good start to cal 1
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
Also i appreciate you helping me understand instead of giving me the answers (i hate when people do that) :)
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
Any ideas?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
one moment
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
ok
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
were you able to find f ' (x) ?
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
for which one?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
the first one. It's better to post one at a time to avoid confusion like this
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
ok give me a second
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
x(2x+1)−1/2+(2x+1)1/2
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OpenStudy (thecalchater):
for d. i kow there are not any horizontal asymptotes
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
`for d. i kow there are not any horizontal asymptotes`
that is correct
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
and for a. I dont think there are any critical numbers when i put it into my calc it says error
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
I'm assuming you meant to write this?
\[\Large f \ '(x) = x(2x+1)^{-1/2} + (2x+1)^{1/2}\]
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
yes
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OpenStudy (thecalchater):
sorry the way i copied it from my calc didnt do it witth the ^
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Let's factor out the GCF
\[\Large f \ '(x) = x(2x+1)^{-1/2} + (2x+1)^{1/2}\]
\[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(x(2x+1)^{-1} + 1\right)\]
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
ok
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
Then a bit of simplification
\[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(x(2x+1)^{-1} + 1\right)\]
\[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(\frac{x}{2x+1} + 1\right)\]
\[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(\frac{x}{2x+1} + 1*\frac{2x+1}{2x+1}\right)\]
\[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(\frac{x}{2x+1} + \frac{2x+1}{2x+1}\right)\]
\[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(\frac{x+2x+1}{2x+1}\right)\]
\[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2}\left(\frac{3x+1}{2x+1}\right)\]
\[\Large f \ '(x) = \frac{(2x+1)^{1/2}}{2x+1}(3x+1)\]
\[\Large f \ '(x) = \frac{(2x+1)^{1/2}}{(2x+1)^1}(3x+1)\]
\[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{1/2-1}(3x+1)\]
\[\Large f \ '(x) = (2x+1)^{-1/2}(3x+1)\]
\[\Large f \ '(x) = \frac{3x+1}{\sqrt{2x+1}}\]
Hopefully you agree with all of these steps?
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
give me a second to check it
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OpenStudy (thecalchater):
yep looks good
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
to find the critical values, you need to solve `f ' (x) = 0`
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
\[\Large f \ '(x) = \frac{3x+1}{\sqrt{2x+1}}\]
\[\Large 0 = \frac{3x+1}{\sqrt{2x+1}}\]
x = ???
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
x=-1/3
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
so a is -1/3 :)
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
ok and we also need to look to see where f ' (x) is undefined AND where f(x) is defined
what happens when you set the denominator of f ' (x) equal to 0 and solve for x?
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
it is undefined
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
sqrt(2x+1) = 0 leads to x = ???
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
x=1/2
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
-1/2 actually
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
so the critical points are -1/3 and -1/2?
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
the domain of f is x >= -1/2
so this solution is in the domain of f
jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
correct
OpenStudy (thecalchater):
ok how do we do part b?
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jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):
draw out a number line and plot the following on it
-1/2 = -0.5
-1/3 = -0.3333....