Calc Help? Check my work
I found the derivative of - x^2-1/(x^2+1)^2. I then set it to zero to get x=1,-1 as our critical points. I then plugged in -2 and 2 into the derivative to see whether it has a negative or positive slope. The relative extrema is x=0 is the local max and x=sqrt3,-sqrt3 is a local minimum.
Your derivative looks a little off, unless you made a typo,\[\large\rm f'(x)=\frac{1-x^2}{(x^2+1)^2}\]the 1 should be positive.
Critical points look correct though :) Hmm
in my calc it shows the whole function to be negative the negative is before the equation...
Does it? Ok maybe I made a boo boo :) I'll check again
That's ok once you distribute you get what zep has
Oh did you mean to write this?\[\large\rm f'(x)=-\frac{x^2-1}{(x^2+1)^2}\]
I thought the negative was on the x^2 only, my bad.
yes that is what i got
I feel like you're missing something for your test points. You wanted to see what was happening "around" each test point. So you chose x=-2 to see what is happening on the left side of x=-1, good. You then chose x=2 to see what is happening on the right side of x=2, good. What about choosing a test point between x=-1 and x=1?
to see what happening on the right side of x=1*
ill plug one in give me a sec
if we plug in 0 we get 1 so it is a positive slope
|dw:1449864511843:dw|ok sounds good :)
so then my answer is correct i just have to add in that i tested 0?
x=0 was not a critical point. How could it possibly be extrema? 0_O
it is the local max
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You get your possible max/min values from your critical points. x=0 is not a critical point, so it's not even in the running.
but when we set it to 0 we get our critical points?
This answer key makes no sense at all... where is sqrt(3) coming from? Are you sure this corresponds to this problem?
that is when i plug the derivative into a calc and it says find the local min and max
Oh oh oh, this is a different problem. See that f(x) does not match your f(x).
oh should i have used f'(x) or the original f(x)
You used f'(x), they wanted f(x) apparently. But I hope what I'm explaining makes sense without you needing the calculator lol :) x=0 was not a critical point, x=-sqrt(3) doesn't even make sense XD lol
Haha, yeah so essentially what you do is find the derivative and set it equal to 0 and find where it's undefined to find the candidates for your critical values.
No no, he used f(x) he didn't find f'(x)
No, I'm pretty sure his original post includes his f(x), this newer post is some online calculator.
Haha xD
yeah i found the derivative and set it to 0 to find the critical points... the original f(x) is the other thing the one i posted was the dervative not the original f(x)
ok so where do i take it from here?
Ok I see you had it listed as f(x)
yeah it should have been f'(x)
|dw:1449865034347:dw|you applied the first derivative test, did your sign chart good. Do you see your local max min?
-1 being the min adn 1 being the max?
ya :d simple as that :D
thanks i will post the second question in a second
Err careful how you say that :) They usually want the y coordinate for the max/min. So we would say x=-1 gives us a minimum value of y=-1/2
ok
here is the second question it uses the MVT
yeah
For us to be allowed to apply the MVT, the function must satisfy two things: ~ Continuous on this interval [0,1] ~ Differentiable on this interval (0,1) Do we have any discontinuities? Does this function have any asymptotes or sharp corners?
Vertical Asymptotes :x=−1 Horizontal Asymptotes :y=0
x=-1 is a discontinuity
Discontinuity at x=-1 which is NOT within our interval [0,1]. If we take the derivative of this function, we'll end up with some type of x+1 in the denominator, which still only tells us about x=-1. So good, our function is continuous and differentiable on [0,1], so yes we can apply the MVT :) Step 1 complete.
ok
If we take the secant line which connects the ends points of our interval,|dw:1449865638879:dw|
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