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OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

I need some help with some consumer math, please. ^.^

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

You owe $1,853.42 on a credit card with a limit of $3,000.00 at a rate of 15.5% APR. You pay $400.00 the first 2 months and then $200.00 until the bill is paid off. You pay the bill on the due date each month. (The thing below is suppose to be a a table. ^.^) Month 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Principal Interest accrued Payment (on due date) End-of-month balance

OpenStudy (amistre64):

so what are your thoughts on how to fill it out?

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

okay, I think the equation has to do with. taking the original number and taking the APR and then subtracting the 400, correct?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

that appears to be a good approach, what is your equation?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

and i think APR is given as a year value, and we need to adjust it for a month value

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

I plug in the numbers but the amount comes out to be more then the original amount.

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

It's after the first month, so 1453.42(1.15) - 400

OpenStudy (amistre64):

interest accrued is: Balance due, times interest: interest accrued = 1853.42 (.155/12) payment = principal + interest ending balance = balance due + interest - payment

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

okay, so where did the 12 come from in the interest accrued area, may I ask?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the interest given (APR) is a year value. the time between payments is 1/12 of a year (a month) so the interest applied is not a full years interest

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

Oh! I get it. So then the next month it would turn into 2/12, right?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

next month is calculated the same way. each month is 1/12 of the year.

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

Why's that? I'm confused again. Sorry.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

as the value of the loan changes, the value of the accrued interest is based off the new/remaining balance (what you owe change)

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

So, the APR would not change, just the original and final amount?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

spose you owe me $20, and give me 5 our situation changes from 20 to 15 ... i do not keep asking for 20 do i?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the APR doesnt change, that is just the cost of the money that isnt paid back yet. \[I=B_m(\frac{APR}{12})\]

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

No. You'd ask for 15. But, how does that apply to the APR and the amount given and taken.?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the APR is the cost of the loan. at first the loan is 20. the cost on 20 is the interest you pay .... the loan is altered to 15, we basically have to restructure the loan now and base it off of a loan of 15 instead say another 3 dollars is paid back .... we would restructure the loan with a balance of 12 now ... each payment made alters the size of the loan ... the cost to borrow money is still going to be (15.5%) but it is the amount of money that is being loaned that changes.

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

So, the amount owed changes but the APR percentage stays the same. You continue to pay it off but the 15.5% do not change. Right? Am I getting it?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

that is correct. the amount of money 'loaned out' changes from month to month, but the cost of borrowing money (15.5%) is the same regardless of how much money is being loaned.

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

So the equation is 1,853.42* (1/12 * 1.55) - 400 for the first month or am I wrong?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the repetition of events is: we start with a balance owed: B we accrue a months worth of interest: B(i/12) we make a payment: P we calculate the ending result: B + B(i/12) - P ----------------------- the payment can be broken down into 2 parts: interest accrued, and principal.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

1/12 * 1.55 is not good ... maybe a mistype. 1/12 * .155 is correct

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

Oh. I think I understand. Would you like to do the first two months with me to make sure I understand, please?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

sure, let me see your attempt at the first month and see if i need to correct it :)

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

okay. So, B + B(i/12) - P 1,853.42 + 1,853.42(.155/12) - 400 1,853.42 + 23.94 - 400 1,477.36 in the final amount for the first month.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

very good. i get the same results APR = 15.5% Beginning balance:1853.42 Payment: 400 Interest Accrued: 1853.42(.155/12) = 23.94 Principal: 400-23.94 = 376.06 Ending balance: 1853.42-376.06 = 1477.36

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

Yay! So the second month would be 1,096.44?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

lol, let me do the calculations :)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

We agree :) you are doing very well Ending/Starting balance: 1477.36 ----------------------------------------- Payment: 400 Interest Accrued: 1477.36(.155/12) = 19.08 Principal: 400-23.94 = 380.92 Ending balance: 1477.36-380.92 = 1096.44

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i spose an excel sheet would make life simpler :)

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

So the 3rd month goes to paying 200 it'd be 910.60 right?

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

Oh, yes it would. Lol.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

Ending balance: 1477.36-380.92 = 1096.44 ----------------------------- Payment: 200 Interest Accrued: 1096.44(.155/12) = 14.16 Principal: 200-14.16 = 185.84 Ending balance: 1096.44-185.84 = 896.44

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

Where'd I go wrong on this one? I see the information, but Still slightly confused. I understand the first months, but now what. lol

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

I see it now. I worked it out a little more.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

my calcs were wrong, not yours ...

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

you simplified yours more than I did. Made it easier

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

I was right than?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

you was right, i hit the wrong button on the calculator ... :)

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

Lol. Thank you so much for your help. I sorry I kept you so long, but I appreciate the help so much. :) I wish I could give you like, 10 metals at once, but OpenStudy doesn't have that feature. :D

OpenStudy (amistre64):

:) as long as you learned how to process this its all good

OpenStudy (snowwhite007):

Yes, I did. Thank you so much!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Excuse me I'm doing this right now and for the principal does it stay the same?? I'm confused about that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Nevermind I see it

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