if 3^a = 4^b Find the value of this amount:- 9^a/b - 16^b/a
@ShadowLegendX
in such questions using LN helps so much. Are you ready to start thinking with me?
ok i'm ready
well, do you know what is LN? Also tell me what is the other form of the phrase below: \[\ln a^{n}=?\]
i don't know what is LN
logarithm
ok i know log but i don't know what is in ??
what is the differance between log and in ?
it is the Natural Logarithm. ok, do you know the Logarithm formulas? for example, can you write the phrase below in a simpler way: \[loga ^{N}=??\]
i don't know can you help me
OK, \[loga ^{N} = N.loga\] You got it?
yes
well! You have this equation: \[3^{a}=4^{b}\] Apply Log to both sides. What will be the result?
by the sentence "Apply Log to both sides" I mean simply add the sign of logarithm to both sides in the equation above.
ok . continue plz
a. log 3 = b.log 4
is that correct.?
yes, that's right, now solve for a/b
i don't know how to solve for a/b
divide both sides by log 3, then divide both sides by b
how??? can you sshow me how
a. log 3 = b.log 4 (dividing both sides of the equation by log 3) a. log 3 / log 3 = b.log 4 / log 3 (simplifying the lefthand side) a = b. log 4 / log 3 now divide by b
@A.ahmed
great i'm sorry the connection went out
you are amazing
EXCUSE ME, A.Ahmed! Can you wait a minute so me and other viewers here talk about it?
I guess there's a simpler way for solving it without using Logarithms. Please correct it if you see I'm making a mistake.
like this... \[3^a = 4^b\] square both sides \[(3^a)^2=(4^b)^2\] \[3^{2a}=4^{2b}\] \[(3^2)^a=(4^2)^b\] \[(9)^a=(16)^b\] raise to the \(1/b\) power \[(9)^{a/b}=16\] raise to the \(1/a\) power \[9=(16)^{b/a}\] thus \[9^{a/b}-16^{b/a}=16-9=7\]
\[3^{a}=4^{b} ==> 9^{a}=16^{b}\]
YES! Exactly like what Zarkon said, without using Logarithm
mr. yavar .i want to know the answer using logarithm .this answer is more diffucalr
mr. @UnkleRhaukus can you continue the answer plz
You're correct. Zarkon has given the simplest way to solve this. Using logarithm and its rules will make it more difficult to solve it.
If you can understand it completely we can close this question, if you need complementary explanations on his solution, i can help you.
mr. yavar can you continue the answer using logarithm by divide by b
actually in the middle of solving it, the same solution came to my mind and i didn't continue it. Do you insist to know a solution using logarithms?
yes
Ok, so: \[a \log3 = b \log4\] SO \[\frac{ a }{ b }=\log_{3} 4\] AND\[\frac{ b }{ a }=\log_{4} 3\] now we can substitute these equations in the phrase below: 9^a/b - 16^b/a --> 3^2a/b-4^2b/a which after substitution becomes the attached file here. It doesn't show the equations well when I use it. So I have attached the file below:
I have written the the most important formula I used, but I guess as long as you're not comfortable with logarithm rules, it's better to do it like Zarkon which is very much simpler. Do Great!
you are great @Yavar . thank you too much
:) you're welcome.
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