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OpenStudy (khally92):

Integration. Easy one.

OpenStudy (khally92):

\[\int\limits_{-2}^{2}4(4-X^2)^1/2 dx\]

OpenStudy (khally92):

The answer is 8pi

OpenStudy (khally92):

is this not easier with substitution?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do u need help with steps

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \int_{-2}^{2}~4(4-x^2)^{1/2}dx }\) ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

like that

OpenStudy (khally92):

let x=2sin(theta)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Yes, correct.

OpenStudy (khally92):

yes @SolomonZelman

OpenStudy (khally92):

and then it turns out to be \[16 \int\limits_{-2}^{2} \cos^2(\theta) d(\theta)\]

OpenStudy (khally92):

This is not giving me 8pi form wolfram so i guess I make mistakes along the way.

OpenStudy (khally92):

yes @ayeshaafzal221 yes please.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i will do step by step

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sqrt{4-x^2} \] sub x=2sin(u) and du=2cos(u) du

OpenStudy (khally92):

yes I did all that @ayeshaafzal221 .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then \[\sqrt{4-x^2 }=\sqrt{4-4\sin^2 (u)}=2\sqrt{\cos^2 (u)}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did u converted the bounds ?

OpenStudy (khally92):

oh NOOOOOOOOOOO I DID NOT

OpenStudy (khally92):

I kept using 2 and -2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[-\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }<u<\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }\]

OpenStudy (khally92):

How did you get that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i ll show u

OpenStudy (anonymous):

with inverse \[u=\sin^{-1}(\frac{ x }{ 2 })\]

OpenStudy (khally92):

Still did'nt get it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this will give lower bound \[u=\sin^{-1} (-\frac{ 2 }{ 2 })=-\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and upper bound \[u=\sin^{-1} (\frac{ 2 }{ 2 })=\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did u get it ?

OpenStudy (khally92):

Oh yea I do, sub x into x=2sin(theta).

OpenStudy (khally92):

and -2 for the lower bound.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats right :) well done

OpenStudy (khally92):

Let me try one more time. :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \int_{-2}^{2}~4(4-x^2)^{1/2}dx }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle x=2\sin \theta }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle dx=2\cos \theta~d \theta }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \int_{-2}^{2}~8(4-4\sin^2\theta)^{1/2}\cos \theta~d \theta }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle\int_{-2}^{2}~16\cos^2\theta ~d \theta }\) You know; \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \cos (2z)=\cos^2z - \sin^2 z }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \cos (2z)=\cos^2z -(1-\sin^2 z) }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \cos (2z)=2\cos^2z -1 }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \cos (2z)+1=2\cos^2z }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle (1/2)\cos (2z)+ (1/2)=\cos^2z }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle\int_{-2}^{2}~8\cos(2\theta)+8 ~d \theta }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \left.4\cos(2\theta)+8\theta \color{white}{\LARGE|}\right|_{-2}^{2} }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \left.8\cos\theta\sin \theta +8\theta \color{white}{\LARGE|}\right|_{-2}^{2} }\) the limits belong to x, not \(\theta\). \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \sin^{-1}(x/2)= \theta }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \left.8\cos(\sin^{-1}(x/2))\sin (\sin^{-1}(x/2)) +8\sin^{-1}(x/2) \color{white}{\LARGE|}\right|_{-2}^{2} }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \left.(4x)\cos(\sin^{-1}(x/2)) +8\sin^{-1}(x/2) \color{white}{\LARGE|}\right|_{-2}^{2} }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \left.(4x)\sqrt{1-\sin(\arcsin^{2}(x/2))} +8\sin^{-1}(x/2) \color{white}{\LARGE|}\right|_{-2}^{2} }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \left.(4x)\sqrt{1-x^2/4} +8\sin^{-1}(x/2) \color{white}{\LARGE|}\right|_{-2}^{2} }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \left.(2x)\sqrt{4-x^2} +8\sin^{-1}(x/2) \color{white}{\LARGE|}\right|_{-2}^{2} }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

that is the result of integration, but you can do it geometrically

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@SolomonZelman why didnt u convert the bounds ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Nope I did not

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I didn't change the limits of integration

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

to verify the result of indefinite integral that wolfram has

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Anyway... back to geom....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

anyways @khally92 just tag me if u need further help :)

OpenStudy (khally92):

oh sure I will one more thing @ayeshaafzal221 . infact very soon. thanks. you want the medal. I dont think @SolomonZelman really cares about medal.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle y=\sqrt{4-x^2} }\) That is a half-circle, \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle y^2=4-x^2;\quad\quad \left\{y\ge0\right\} }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle y^2+x^2=2^2;\quad\quad \left\{y\ge0\right\} }\) So, therefore, \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \int_{x=-2}^{x=2}\sqrt{4-x^2}dx=\frac{1}{2}\cdot \pi(2^2)=2\pi }\) And thus, \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle 4\int_{x=-2}^{x=2}\sqrt{4-x^2}dx=8\pi }\)

OpenStudy (khally92):

Area of a circle is pi r^2

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

But, area of half-circle ... ?

OpenStudy (khally92):

And our r here is 2

OpenStudy (khally92):

yeah I know. so pi r^2 gives you 4pi

OpenStudy (khally92):

and divide by 2 gives you 2pi??

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes; do you see why, or is that a question to me to address?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you see what I did in this geometric approach, or not?

OpenStudy (khally92):

oh I forgot about the 4 outside.

OpenStudy (khally92):

@ayeshaafzal221 is (pi/2) and -(pi/2) in rad or deg. I keep getting confuse.

OpenStudy (khally92):

Thanks @SolomonZelman really appreciate. I am doing calculus 3 and it seems like I have to brush up on my integrals

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@khally92 in rad

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

This is a pretty hard integral to take; and if you didn't remember to substitute the original variable back or something of this sort then it is not a catastrophy. The only reason I did the integral way is because you asked, but the gometry came first to my mind, and this is what you should have also done. You should have noticed the half-circle...

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I am not a professor, mathematician, or anything of the sort, but I would advise to go over circles/half-circles, and to do some integrals occasionally too.

OpenStudy (khally92):

gracias @SolomonZelman I will. Thanks.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yw

OpenStudy (khally92):

@ayeshaafzal221 I will use the geometry its much easier but i do still want to get this, but its not giving me 8pi. see what I have \[16\int\limits_{-\pi/2}^{\pi/2} \cos^2\theta d \theta = 16 [1/2\sin \theta \cos \theta + \theta]\]

OpenStudy (khally92):

the 1/2 also multiplies theta

OpenStudy (khally92):

oh forget it thanks.

OpenStudy (khally92):

got it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ur last answer should be \[\int\limits_{-\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }}^{\frac{ \pi }{ 2 }} 8u\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok good :)

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