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OpenStudy (arianna1453):

FAN + MEDAL Calculus Help

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

OpenStudy (christos):

Circular cylinder = 16 inches Radius = 4 inches error = ± 0.05 inches

OpenStudy (christos):

The formula for a cylinder's Volume is V=πr^2h

OpenStudy (christos):

what the error says is that you should plug in the error to the Radius and to the height of the cylinder like so

OpenStudy (christos):

Circular cylinder = 16 ± 0.05 inches Radious = 4 ± 0.05 inches

OpenStudy (christos):

From the formula you can see that we are multiplying the Radious (r) with Height(h)

OpenStudy (christos):

When you multiply quantities with errors in them you ADD the relative errors together

OpenStudy (christos):

And you get V ± (what you found from above)

OpenStudy (christos):

Also keep in mind that r is to the power of 2

OpenStudy (christos):

so r*r*h

OpenStudy (christos):

add the relative errors, three times

OpenStudy (christos):

(1 - radius/0.05) + (1 - radius/0.05) + (1 - height/0.05)

OpenStudy (christos):

By relative error I mean this --> (1 - value/error)

OpenStudy (phi):

I think they are saying the error is only on the measurement of the radius (though it's not totally clear)

OpenStudy (christos):

hm

OpenStudy (christos):

in this case you just have to do (1 - radius/0.05) + (1 - radius/0.05)

OpenStudy (phi):

wouldn't you use differentials, i.e. dV= 2pi r h dr and then replace the differentials with "deltas" \[ \Delta V = 2 \pi r h \Delta r \]

OpenStudy (christos):

uhh I dunno about that technique , would be interested to see how it's done

OpenStudy (christos):

Was doing it that way in physics experiments

zepdrix (zepdrix):

The radius can range from 3.95 to 4.05, so the volume can range from \(\large\rm v_1=2\pi(3.95)^2h\) to \(\large\rm v_2=2\pi(4.05)^2h\) And then you can measure the difference from the original volume, ya? That's how I'm thinking about it at least :o

OpenStudy (christos):

I guess that could also be done that way yea

OpenStudy (arianna1453):

Ugh. so confuseddd.

OpenStudy (christos):

I personally would be interested to see @phi solution :D

OpenStudy (christos):

Since I can't quite grasp the thinking of it

OpenStudy (phi):

\[ \Delta V = 2 \pi r h \Delta r \\ \pm \Delta V = 2\pi \cdot 4\cdot 16 \cdot \pm 0.05 \\ \pm \Delta V = \pm 6.4\pi\ cu.in. \approx \pm 20.106\ cu. in. \]

OpenStudy (phi):

If we compute the upper and lower bound on the volume we would get \[V_{high}= \pi r^2 h = (4.05)^2 \cdot 16 \pi = 262.44\pi \ cu. \in.\] \[V_{low}= \pi r^2 h = (3.95)^2 \cdot 16 \pi = 249.64\pi \ cu. \in.\] and the error is (Vhigh-Vlow)/2 = 12.8 pi/2 = 6.4 pi or about \[\pm 20.106 \ cu.\ in.\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

lol it turned your inches into \in, i hate that :)

OpenStudy (phi):

in case it was not clear, \[ \frac{d}{dr}\left(V= \pi r^2 \ h \right)\\ \frac{dV}{dr} = 2 \pi r h \\ dV= 2\pi r \ h \ dr \]

OpenStudy (phi):

and the idea is if the uncertainty is small, we can use the approximation \[ \Delta V \approx 2 \pi r \ h\ \Delta r \]

OpenStudy (christos):

how did you go from ΔV=2π⋅4⋅16⋅±0.05± to ΔV=±6.4π cu.in.≈±20.106 cu.in

OpenStudy (christos):

2*4*16 ?

OpenStudy (phi):

I put in 4 for r, 16 for h , 0.05 for \( \Delta r\) into \[ \Delta V \approx 2 \pi r \ h\ \Delta r \]

OpenStudy (phi):

the \( \pm\) is probably in the wrong spot, perhaps I should write is as \[ \Delta V \approx \pm \ 2 \pi \cdot 4 \cdot 16 \cdot 0.05 \ in^3 \]

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