PLEASE HELP 1. 2^x-1 = 5^2x+6
@zepdrix
is it \[2^{x*1}=5^{2x+6}\]?
yes :)
x-1 actually
ok be prepared to do some algebra
oh goodie
you gotta start with \[(x-1)\ln(2)=(2x+6)\ln(5)\] as a first step
don't be confused by this \(\ln(2)\) and \(\ln(5)\) are just some numbers
constants in other words, we are solving for \(x\) so the first thing you do is to distribute on both sides of the equal sign
i think i get it
we can take an additional step at the beginning, but it is unnecessary the math teachers say "take the log" and write \[\ln(2^{x-1})=\ln(5^{2x+6})\] but then the next step is to rewrite that (the whole point is to bring the \(x\) out of the sky) and write \[(x-1)\ln(2)=(2x+6)\ln(5)\]
ready for the algebra?
oh i get it now. go on please :)
distribute first, remembering ( i repeat) that \(\ln(2)\) and \(\ln(5)\) are just numbers so first second step is to write \[\ln(2)x-\ln(2)=2\ln(5)x+6\ln(5)\] let me know when you digest that
on the left side is it - ln(2) because in x - 1 the one has a - in front ?
it is the distributive property in action \((b+c)a=ab+ac\) here \(b=x.c=-1,a=\ln(2)\) so \[(x-1)\ln(2)=\ln(2)\times x-1\times \ln(2)\]
more succinctly written as \[\ln(2)x-\ln(2)\] same story on the other side
okay so what would the next step be?
you are solving for \(x\) so you have to get everything with an \(x\) on one side of the equal sign, everything else on the other
it doesn't matter which side you pick but lets put the \(x\) stuff on the left ok?
again don't be confused the the logs, it is like solving \[Ax-A=2Bx+6B\] for \(x\)
okay so i do the opposite operation right which would be subtracting 2ln(5)x ...?? or am i really off
no you are not off (not that i know of anyway) you are exactly right
okay phew
\[\ln(2)x-\ln(2)=2\ln(5)x+6\ln(5)\\ \ln(2)x-2\ln(5)x-\ln(2)=6\ln(5)\] after subtracting
yes i got that right!
now we got to get the term without the \(x\) on the other side
yay!
yay indeed!
so since you are on a roll, what do you do now to get the term without an x on the right?
so + in(2) on both sides
bingo
and from there...
\[\ln(2)x-2\ln(5)x=6\ln(5)+\ln(2)\] is where we should be
yes :)
ok now here is the only part that requires some sophistication before we do it, could you solve \[Ax+Bx=C\] for \(x\) if you had to ? "no" is a fine answer, just asking
for which side?
solve for \(x\)
if not, that is fine, i will show you
yes please
ok first imagine we had to solve \[3x+7x=15\] we would add first and get \[10x=15\] then divide by 10
yes i understand that
if we have \[Ax+Bx=C\] we can't really add (or combine like terms) but we would do the same thing \[(A+B)x=C\] so \[x=\frac{C}{A+B}\]
in other words, factor out the \(x\) so we know what to divide by here we have \[\ln(2)x-2\ln(5)x=6\ln(5)+\ln(2)\] so we have to factor out the \(x\) on the left and get \[(\ln(2)-2\ln(5))x=6\ln(5)+\ln(2)\]
ooooh yes i see
let me know if that last step is clear, it is the only part of this that is confusing
i going to take that as a "i get it" final step is to divide to finish with \[x=\frac{6\ln(5)+\ln(2)}{\ln(2)-2\ln(5)}\]
yes i understand
told you it was a bunch of algebra the only not algebra part was taking the log at the beginning to get the variable on the ground floor
want to check it?
im doing the calculations now :)
here is an easy check http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+2^%28x-1%29+%3D+5^%282x%2B6%29 you can see that it is right
now i have a question
what the monkey is a "wilder monday"?
haha i get that a lot
its actually my name. Wilder-Monday Turner is my full name
i have no idea why my mother did that but people just call me Monday
that is a pretty cool name i know someone named "tuesday wolf" which i also like
thats a nice name!
and not that you asked, but "satellite73" is my car http://www.dvap.com/salvage/1973-plymouth-satellite-73pl5238d/ mine is nicer but similar
i feel bad for not asking ahaha. thats a sick ride you got there
lol don't feel bad you got more or are you done?
more questions? yes i have more if you would like to help me :)
sure why not? it is nice to help someone who actually participates too
i like being involved because it helps me understand better instead of having someone do it all for me
ill make a new question or do you want to keep going on this one?
you can go ahead an post here if you like
okay :) 1. 3 + e^3x+2 = 23
it is \[1.3+e^{3x+2}=23\]?
No no its just 3
sorry bout that
ooh \[3+e^{3x+2}=23\]
yes yes
this is way way (way) easier than the last one a) subtract 3 from both sides
done :)
rewrite in equivalent logarthmic form, i.e go from \[e^{3x+2}=20\] to \[3x+2=\ln(20)\] that is the only none algebra part
"non algebra" part
then solve as normal, subtract 2, then divide by 3
thats it ?! easy!
way way (way) easier than the last one you can just about do the last steps in your head you should have \[x=\frac{\ln(20)-2}{3}\]
yep and i got 0.3319...
if you are supposed to answer as a decimal, then that is probably correct
yes decimals are fine
can you help with two more?
sure btw your answer is right
okay thanks :)
these next ones look long and hard
and i just realized that sounded very wrong whoops
oh great (maybe they are not so long and hard lol)
maybe im over reacting lol
log (2-1) = log (4x-3) - log x
there must be a typo there right? is it really \[\ln(2-1)\] on the left?
it says log(2-1)
and then the rest on the other side
is that bad
ok if that is what it really says (seems weird) then it is pretty clear that \(2-1=1\)right?
yes that seems about right lol
so you really have \[\log (1) = \log (4x-3) - \log (x)\]
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