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MsBrains (ms-brains):

PLEASE HELP! I WILL MEDAL! it's a tricky question

MsBrains (ms-brains):

MsBrains (ms-brains):

I don't know how to solve it, so Please try to explain it to me.

OpenStudy (youngstudier):

@iGreen

MsBrains (ms-brains):

I think it could be C.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you are correct it is C

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Well, in general; suppose that you are given, \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle x =\frac{a}{b}z +c }\) and suppose you want to solve for z, then, \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle x\color{red}{-c} =\frac{a}{b}z +c\color{red}{-c} }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle x-c =\frac{a}{b}z }\) multiply both sides times b/a. (On the right side, (a/b)•(b/a)=1) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \frac{b}{a}(x-c) =z }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle x =\frac{a}{b}z+c\quad \Longrightarrow \quad z=\frac{b}{a}(x-c) }\) right?

MsBrains (ms-brains):

Yeah.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

your claim was, \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_F}=\frac{9}{5}{\rm T_C}+32\quad \Longrightarrow \quad {\rm T_C}=\frac{9}{5}({\rm T_F}+32) }\)

MsBrains (ms-brains):

So, C is, correct, right?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I don't think so.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Let's once again try to solve for \({\rm T_C}\) ok?

MsBrains (ms-brains):

Okay.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

You are given that: \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_F}=\frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C}+32 }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

What do you think you first step should be? (What would you first try to isolate if you are solving for \(\color{#000000 }{ {\rm T_C}}\)) ?

MsBrains (ms-brains):

I'm not sure, I would think it is re-arrange the problem?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Yes, but if you are solving for \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_C} }\) you would first try to put the term(s) that contains \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_C} }\) on one side of the equation and the rest of the terms on the other side of the equation.

MsBrains (ms-brains):

Okay,

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Which term, ((on the side where there's a term containting "\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_C} }\)")), does not contain "\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_C} }\)"? (hope this question isn't too hard to read)

MsBrains (ms-brains):

They all have Tc on one side though..?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Recalling the equation: \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_F}=\frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C}+32 }\) There are two terms on the right side, and namely, (1) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C} }\) (2) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle 32 }\) (And the term \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_F} }\) is already separated - on a different side - from \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_C} }\))

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So, (ca you answer my question ?) Which term - on the side where \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_C} }\) containing terms are located - does not contain \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_C} }\)?

MsBrains (ms-brains):

I got no clue, I'm sorry! I suck at this

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Would you say that \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C} }\) or \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle 32 }\) has a "\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_C} }\)" inside of it?

MsBrains (ms-brains):

Yes..?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Was that a yes or no question?

MsBrains (ms-brains):

Lol. I thought it was.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Ok, ... can you please answer the last question I asked you?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

(Well, if you don't understand what I'm asking let me know)

MsBrains (ms-brains):

I don't understand what you are asking, I mean, Yes, 9/5 Tc has has a 'Tc' in it.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Yes, that is all I asked.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

And "32" does not have the '\(T_c\)' in it.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So, we would like to isolate the term that does have the "\(T_C\)" on one side.

MsBrains (ms-brains):

Okay, if the answer isn't C, it has to be A..

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

However, there also a 32 on the same side, and that creates a little problem. (reminding, your equation is, \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_F}=\frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C}+32 }\)) So, what would you add/subtract from both sides of this equation, to isolate/separate the term that does have the \(\rm {T_C}\) in it?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

(((If you ask these kind of questions it might seem as though you are just trying to get the answer, rather than learn)))

MsBrains (ms-brains):

I'm trying to get the answer :P And learn a little too. xD Okay, Why do we need to add/subtract from 32? The choices all have 32 in them...?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

we are not just removing the 32...

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_F}=\frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C}+32 }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_F}\color{red}{-32}=\frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C}+32\color{red}{-32} }\) what did I do to the equation?

MsBrains (ms-brains):

Subtracted 32 from both sides

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes, good

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

What will your right side simplify to, can you tell me?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

(you know that 32-32=0, and R+0 is same thing as just R)

MsBrains (ms-brains):

There isn't a solution for that

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

if I gave you the following to simplify, x+4-4 then, what would you simplify this to?

MsBrains (ms-brains):

x

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Yes, exactly

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_F}=\frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C}+32 }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_F}\color{red}{-32}=\frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C}+32\color{red}{-32} }\) What will your right side simplify to?

MsBrains (ms-brains):

9/5 TC?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Yes, good

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_F}=\frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C}+32 }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_F}\color{red}{-32}=\frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C}+32\color{red}{-32} }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle {\rm T_F}\color{red}{-32}=\frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C} }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle ({\rm T_F}\color{red}{-32})=\frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C} }\) by putting parenthesis, I didn't change anything in the equation .. just noting that i didn't change the equation, rather I just take it as one term.

MsBrains (ms-brains):

So A is correct, rightttt?

MsBrains (ms-brains):

@solomonZelman

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

no, A is not correct. (I had a problem with my internet connection)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle ({\rm T_F}-32)=\frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C} }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \color{red}{ \frac{5}{9}\times} ({\rm T_F}-32)=\frac{9 }{5} {\rm T_C}\color{red}{\times \frac{5}{9}} }\)

MsBrains (ms-brains):

It would be B than?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes

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