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OpenStudy (anonymous):

solve ln2+lnx^2=3

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Hi :) Recall this log rule: \(\large\rm \log(a)+\log(b)=\log(ab)\) We can apply this to the left side of our equation.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\(\large\rm \ln(2)+\ln(x^2)=ln(?)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

=ln2x^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@zepdrix

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes that is right. So you have, \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \ln\left(2x^2\right)=3 }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Then, there is another rule you need to know: \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle a=\log_bz\quad \quad \Longrightarrow \quad \quad b^a=z }\) And since \(\ln\) is same as \(\log_e\). Therefore, \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle a=\ln z=\log_ez\quad \quad \Longrightarrow \quad \quad e^a=z }\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i would use log to solve this

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle 3=\ln (2x^2) \quad \quad \Longrightarrow \quad \quad 2x^2=e^3 }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

by the same rule.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

then solve for x.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x=3.16

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

well, first, there are two answers. Also, can you please write the answers exactly?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i took \[\frac{ e \frac{ 3 }{ 3 } }{ 2\frac{ 1 }{ 2 } }\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Sorry my notification didn't show up :[ weird..

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yeah, happens to me 40 out of 55 times

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle 2x^2=e^3 }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle x^2=e^3/2 }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \sqrt{~x^2}=\sqrt{~\frac{e^3}{2}} }\) and then, knowing the definition of the absolute value; \(|z|=\sqrt{z^2}\), continue please.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Example about this definition of absolute value?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the square root will go away on the x^2

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

not exactly,

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

rather, \(\sqrt{x^2}\) will turn into \(|x|\) ("absolute value of x")

OpenStudy (anonymous):

leaving you with \[x ^{2}=\sqrt{\frac{ e ^{3} }{ 2}}\]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

No no... ok I will give you an example of the application of this defintion of \(\sqrt{z^2}=|z|\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

anything absolute cant be negative

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

but \(x^2\) ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its just x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the square root of x^2 is x

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

No!

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

unless x>0

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Suppose I am solving the following equation for \(t\). \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle t^2-16=0 }\) adding 16 to both sides, \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle t^2=16 }\) then I take the square root of both sides, \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \sqrt{t^2}=\sqrt{16} }\) applying the definition of absolute value, \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle |t|=4}\) and therefore, \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle t=\pm 4}\) So my two solutions would be: \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle t=4}\) and \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle t=-4}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle 2x^2=e^3 }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle x^2=\frac{e^3}{2} }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \sqrt{~x^2}=\sqrt{~\frac{e^3}{2}} }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

then, please proceed and keep in mind the definition of the absolute value.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so its \[\frac{ e \sqrt{2e} }{ 2 }\]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

How did you get that result?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you are missing the other solution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i solved it with my calculator

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes, but there is another solution, and if you follow the example I did then this should be clear

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont understand y there would be 2 answers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i am looking at it now

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

ok, tell me if you get it or not after you are done reading it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is the other answer 0 or something or like plus or minus the answer i got?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is the other answer 0 or something or like plus or minus the answer i got?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

After squaring both sides, via the definition of the absolute value you get \(|x|=\sqrt{\dfrac{e^3}{2}}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and you know that if |x|=a, then x=\(\pm\)a, right?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and same here, except that in your case, the "a" is that big square root.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

proceed please, and tell me the two answers you get.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it \[\pm \frac{ e \sqrt{2e} }{ 2 }\]

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes, exactly!

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Great

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

this is all I needed, you pleased me \(\lim_{x\to\infty}(jk)^{x} \)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

no just kidding::)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol omg

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

good luck

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks for all of the help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have 1 last question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it looks really simple but im not getting it its give the general solution for the following equation: \[\sin ^2x+2=3sinx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@SolomonZelman

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \sin^2x+2=3\sin x }\) you can substitute \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \sin x=z }\) and this will get you \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle z^2+2=3z }\) Solve for z, and after you solve for z, you can solve for x knowing that \(z=sin(x)\).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

z is 2,1

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle z^2-3z+2=0 }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle (z-2)(z-1)=0 }\) \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle z=1,~2 }\) Godd!

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

-1 < sin( quantity ) < 1 for whatever quantity is!

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

because sine is the ratio of the opposite side (o) and hypotenuse (h), and |o/h | \(\le\) 1 Therefore | sin( anything) | \(\le\) 1

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you had 2 solutions: z=2 z=1

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

z=2 is not a solution however

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

because if z=2, then sin(x)=2

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

And as I explained sin(x)=2 is false for any real (or complex) x.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So, the only case you have left is sin(x)=1

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

there is an infinite number of solutions for this, actually, unless x is on some interval.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

can you give some solutions to this equation tho', please?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so sin is 2

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

The sin is to miss-follow my comments. No just kidding. I have however explained that sin(x)=1 is the only case, although I admit I might have done that to briefly and quickly.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

sin( of what? ) = 0 can you give me some examples, please?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

(you may refer to the unit circle too, if you like)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol well pi is

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Sure, good! sin(pi)=0

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

sin(0)=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have a unit circle chart

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I will write this: \(\color{#000000 }{ \displaystyle \sin(x)=0\quad\Longrightarrow \quad x=k\times \pi;~\forall k\in\mathbb{Z} }\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

can you read that notation?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

it's fine if you can't

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I will translate

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

"if sin(x)=0, then x=k•π, for any integer k"

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So, x=-1000π x=-23π x=0π=0 x=9623π x=2π x=49π x=-127π and so on, for any integer in front of π, that is a solution

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Why?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

A π is a circle, correct?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So, knowing that when you subtract π from 0, or add π to 0, you return to the same point where y=0.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

So, you can add or subtract any number of π, as long as you subtract or add whole number of π's - i.e. go as many full circles as you like in either clockwise or anticlockwise direction, you will be returning to the same point on the unit circle.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i understand that

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Well, that is the general concept why you can add pi or subtract pi as many times as you want (as long as you add pos/neg integer amount of pi's.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

so whenever you have \(\sin[f(x)]=0\) And you get 1 solution, say \(x=r\) then, \(k\times \pi+r\) would be the solutions for all integer k

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

kπ is just the number of whole circles you travel, but you always, again, return to same point.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Well, \(\sin[f(x)]=t\) doesn't have to =0

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

anyways, won't overwhelm with this, since I myself am not very good with unit circle.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

good luck!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol you seem pretty good with it to me are you like a math professor or something

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