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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find a • b. a = 5i + 7j, b = -4i + 3j

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

You want the "dot product" of two given vectors? There are 2 or 3 formulas used for "dot product." Which do you propose to use? Note that a dot product results in a scalar, whereas a cross product results in another vector.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-20, 21?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Where is the formula that you plan to use?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

-20, 21 by itself is not the dot product of those 2 vectors. Again: a dot product returns a scalar, and there is no comma " .< " in the answer.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Looking for and sharing the appropriate dot product formula might clear things up for you as well as show the rest of us how you obtained your proposed answer.

OpenStudy (danjs):

haa, sorry, i am half sleeping, it is a determanate

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know it is placed like <-20,21>

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait so I am wrong?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Then, Abbs...., you are saying that the result of the dot product of 2 vectors is another vector? Not so.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Then i am confused

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Abbs ... for the third time, I'm asking you to look for and then share the formula for "dot product."

OpenStudy (danjs):

i said all that crap, i was doing +

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Dan, where would you look for the formulas for the dot product and the cross product of two vectors? Please share that info with Abbs.

OpenStudy (danjs):

the determinant of a 2x2 matrix for those 2 vectors

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Why the negative sign. I wanna see your formula, Dan.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Abbs: I hope you're busy right now looking for the formula for the dot product.

OpenStudy (danjs):

-20 - 21

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Look: vector a is given by <5,7>. Vector b is given by <-4,-3>. We want the dot product. We do not want the determinant.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Abbs...have you found that formula yet?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm super confused now idk

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I'm sorry Abbs, but at your level, able to study and learn dot and cross products, you MUST know where and how to find formulas for both. Why are you resisting doing that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm you seem to be very rude, I will find someone elses help :)

OpenStudy (danjs):

dot product of 2 vectors , is the sum of the component products <a,b>*<c , d> = ac + bd

OpenStudy (danjs):

you get some number,

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Correct, Dan, and the resulting "number" is a SCALAR, not a vector.

OpenStudy (danjs):

the cross product is for vectors in 3 space

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Dan, thank you so much for looking up this formula. Where did you find it?

OpenStudy (danjs):

i just remembered, hah sorry i am quitting now, sleeping

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Actually, the cross product is of TWO vectors, with the resultant being a vector perpendicular to the first two. Good night, Dan.

OpenStudy (danjs):

cross product of 2 vectors will be another vector perpendicular to both of the cross terms

OpenStudy (mathmale):

So, yes, we'll have 3 vectors in a 3-space. Say this instead: the cross product of two vectors is a third vector perpendicular to the first two.

OpenStudy (danjs):

yeah the 3x3 determinant of , the unit vector and the 2 product vectors

OpenStudy (mathmale):

too bad you're leaving. It'd be great if y ou could demonstrate that. Abbs: do you want to continue or have you excused yourself from this discussion?

OpenStudy (danjs):

yeah normal to the plane of V1 and V2.. been a few years since actually doing the Calc 3 things with planes and lines and products

OpenStudy (mathmale):

glad you remember as much as you do! Unfortunately, Abbs has left this discussion, so I'm closing it. Thanks for your contributions!

OpenStudy (danjs):

ok

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