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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Need help with a few questions please! {MEDAL & FAN}

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (misty1212):

HI!!

OpenStudy (misty1212):

which one you want to do first?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Lets Go From Top To bottom please & I've been wanting your help lol but you haven't been responding

OpenStudy (misty1212):

ok you want to do it the way it says, or you want to do it the easy way, or both?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Both

OpenStudy (misty1212):

lets do it the easy way first to solve \[x^2+5x+6=0\] is not too hard, because it factors as \[(x+2)(x+3)=0\] making the zeros \(-2\) and \(-3\) so descartes rule of sign, even though we did not use it, better say "no positive zeros, two negative ones"

OpenStudy (misty1212):

now lets go ahead and use descartes rule of sign \[x^2+5x+6\] has three coefficients, respectively \(\{1,5,6\}\)

OpenStudy (misty1212):

they are all positive, no changes in sign from \(+\) to \(-1\) so NO positive zeros

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay I see. The first way you did is easier than the way the teacher wants

OpenStudy (misty1212):

now replace \(x\) by \(-x\) and get \[(-x)^2+5(-x)+6=x^2-5x+6\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@misty can you help me with my question after this please you seem to be good at math

OpenStudy (misty1212):

here the coefficents are \(\{1,-5,6\}\) which has two changes in sign from \(+\) to \(-\) and from \(-\) to \(+\)

OpenStudy (misty1212):

that means either 2 or 0 negative zeros, you count down by 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok I see, shall we move on?

OpenStudy (misty1212):

ok you try the next one how many changes in sign ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Two changes in sign

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait One change!

OpenStudy (misty1212):

yes so either 2 positive zeros or no positive zeros, you count down by twos

OpenStudy (misty1212):

no 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok So I was correct before lol Sorry about that

OpenStudy (misty1212):

from 9 to -4, from -4 to +10

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah lol I shouldn't have changed my answer

OpenStudy (misty1212):

ok so now we know there are 2 or 0 positive zeros now turn x in to -x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok

OpenStudy (misty1212):

you should get \[-9x^2-4x^2+10\] if you do it right how many changes in sign here ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Two still

OpenStudy (misty1212):

try again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

One?

OpenStudy (misty1212):

yea -9, -4, +10 only from -4 to +10

OpenStudy (misty1212):

that means there is one negative zero

OpenStudy (misty1212):

because you count down by twos, so there has to be one negative zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Two or no positive real roots; One negative real root

OpenStudy (misty1212):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Lets move onto the last one? I appreciate your help as well Misty!

OpenStudy (misty1212):

your welcome, i hope the idea is getting clearer

OpenStudy (misty1212):

how many changes in sign of the last one ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Three changes in Sign

OpenStudy (misty1212):

8, 2, -14, 5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah.

OpenStudy (misty1212):

so what are the changes in sign? or maybe that part is not clear

OpenStudy (anonymous):

From 8 to 2, 2 to -14, -14 to 5

OpenStudy (misty1212):

but 8 and 2 are both positive right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes they are

OpenStudy (misty1212):

\[\{+8,+2,-14,+5\}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah.

OpenStudy (misty1212):

so what are the sign changes, from what number to what number?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

They change from +2 to -14 then from -14 to +5

OpenStudy (misty1212):

right that is two changes

OpenStudy (misty1212):

not three so 2 or no positive zeros

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh yeah Ive been thinking you were talking about changes in sign as in +,-,+

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But now I understand. So i now see Its two changes

OpenStudy (misty1212):

oh i see yeah two changes from plus to minus, from minus to plus now replace x by \(-x\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok After changing X to -X i'd get

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-8x^3 + -2x^3 - -14x + 5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait its a few errors in that I think lol but you get the point^

OpenStudy (misty1212):

lets clean it up a bit

OpenStudy (misty1212):

should be \[-8x^2+2x^2+14x+5\] right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (misty1212):

how many changes in sign here?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

one

OpenStudy (misty1212):

yup so one negative zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

one negative real root

OpenStudy (misty1212):

xactly

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thanks so much, can you help with this final question?

OpenStudy (misty1212):

lol you got a lot of time you can check each one to see which works, will be very annoying and i would not bother

OpenStudy (misty1212):

lets just cheat

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol The Algebrea Calc won't work on this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Algebra *

OpenStudy (misty1212):

watch this http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=6x%5E4-13x%5E3%2B13x%5E2-39x-15

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wolfram lol I see. Thanks misty

OpenStudy (misty1212):

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