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OpenStudy (anonymous):

If x^4+y^4=1, which expression for y" ( the 2 nd derivative)

OpenStudy (christos):

Do you know how to find the first derivate ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I believe it's 4x^3+4yy'=0

OpenStudy (christos):

Close . it's actually 4x^3+4y^3y'=0

OpenStudy (christos):

Can you now solve it with respect to y' ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(-4x^3)/(4y^3)

OpenStudy (christos):

now diferentiate one more time

OpenStudy (christos):

this expression (-4x^3)/(4y^3)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-x^3/y^3

OpenStudy (christos):

hmm something aint right with this one

OpenStudy (christos):

By applying the quotient rule I get this (-12x^2)(4y^3) - (-4x^3)(y’12y^2) / (4y^3)^2

OpenStudy (christos):

[ (-12x^2)(4y^3) - (-4x^3)(y’12y^2) ] / (4y^3)^2

OpenStudy (christos):

now the trick here is to notice that we have another y' since we differentated again

OpenStudy (christos):

We already know what y' equals to since this is the first derivate that we found before

OpenStudy (christos):

so you need to replace it likeso [ (-12x^2)(4y^3) - (-4x^3)(((-4x^3)/(4y^3))12y^2) ] / (4y^3)^2

OpenStudy (christos):

Do you know what is the quotient rule ?

OpenStudy (christos):

any questions ? :o

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah

OpenStudy (christos):

So basically you need to remember to make this substitution on the second derivative

OpenStudy (christos):

We found that y' = (-4x^3)/(4y^3)

OpenStudy (christos):

And then that y'' = [ (-12x^2)(4y^3) - (-4x^3)(y’12y^2) ] / (4y^3)^2

OpenStudy (christos):

y'' = [ (-12x^2)(4y^3) - (-4x^3)( -------- > y’ <------- 12y^2) ] / (4y^3)^2 This needs to be replaced with (-4x^3)/(4y^3)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thx

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