Hewp. Piece wise function as a "so far" function.
@ganeshie8 :)
this question is similar to a problem done a few days ago http://openstudy.com/users/babynini#/updates/568f4480e4b0b283c160dfc3
ooh hmm..
How..do I go about doing this one?
this time i'm finding f(t) = { for each of the ones by f(x)? if that makes sense
you are finding g(x) where \[\Large g(x) = \int_{-4}^{x}f(t)dt\]
break it up into pieces first find \[\Large \int_{-4}^{x}\sqrt{-t}dt\] where x ranges from -4 to 0 (including -4 but not including 0)
so I find each of those points?
what is that integral equivalent to?
put x in place of t integrating it= -(2/3)x^(3/2)
forget about the limits of integration for a moment
what is \[\Large \int \sqrt{-t}dt\] equal to?
(-t)^1/2.. ?
no
you are integrating (-t)^(1/2) to get something else
I'm not sure what answer you're looking for o.0
for now, I'm just looking for the result of \[\Large \int \sqrt{-t}dt\] or \[\Large \int (-t)^{1/2}dt\]
\[= -\frac{ 2 }{ 3 }(-t)^{3/2}\]
+C correct
now evaluate it at the limits of integration, x and -4 what is \[\Large \int_{-4}^{x} \sqrt{-t}dt\] equal to?
\[-\frac{ 2 }{ 3 }(-x)^{3/2}+\frac{ 16 }{ 3 }\]
correct, so that takes care of the first piece of g(x)
what happens when x = 0 ?
what is the value of \[-\frac{ 2 }{ 3 }(-x)^{3/2}+\frac{ 16 }{ 3 }\] when x is zero?
It equals just 16/3
yep
so for just the first piece alone, the total area under the curve is 16/3 this will be used to form the next piece (because everything adds on cumulatively)
ahh so setting x = 0 is what will give us the actual area under the curve?
yeah because the first piece of f(x) spans from x = -4 to x = 0 (not including 0 itself)
so if \[\Large \Large g(x) = \int_{-4}^{x}f(t)dt\] then g(x) is some piecewise function where the first piece is \[-\frac{ 2 }{ 3 }(-x)^{3/2}+\frac{ 16 }{ 3 }\] if -4 <= x < 0
the second piece of g(x) will be equal to \[\Large \frac{16}{3} + \int_{0}^{x}(t^2-4)dt\] where x is some value from 0 to 3 (not including 3 itself)
so in the second one I would set x equal to 0 again, and..also equal to 3?
first tell me what the antiderivative of `t^2 - 4` is
\[\frac{ t^3 }{ 3 }-4t\]
+ C
correct
now evaluate at the endpoints x and 0
\[\frac{ x^3 }{ 3 }-4x - 0\] like so?
looks good
so \[\Large \frac{16}{3} + \int_{0}^{x}(t^2-4)dt\] turns into \[\Large \frac{16}{3} + \frac{x^3}{3}-4x\] this is the second piece of g(x)
why don't we evaluate that second one at 3? even though it's not included there is still the space between say x being 2 and x being 3
we're getting there
we'll evaluate at x = 3 when we want to find the area from x = 0 to x = 3 to help set up the third and final piece
so what does \[\Large \frac{16}{3} + \frac{x^3}{3}-4x\] evaluate to when x = 3?
7/3
correct
this is the total area so far from x = -4 to x = 3
so the third piece of g(x) will look like \[\Large \frac{7}{3} + \int_{3}^{x}(2t+4)dt \] where x is now 3 or larger
t^2+4t +C
evaluate that at the endpoints (3 and x)
x^2+4x-21
good
so overall, this is g(x) \[\Large g(x) = \int_{-4}^{x}f(t)dt\] becomes \[\Large g(x) = \begin{cases} \Large -\frac{ 2 }{ 3 }(-x)^{3/2}+\frac{ 16 }{ 3 } \ \ \text{if } -4 \le x < 0\\ \Large \frac{16}{3} + \frac{x^3}{3}-4x\ \ \text{if } 0 \le x < 3\\ \Large \frac{7}{3}+x^2+4x-21\ \ \text{if } x \ge 3 \Large \end{cases}\]
after this point, you would graph g(x) as accurately as possible
so for that last point, to get a result without x's in it, would I evaluate at 3 again? for the 7/3 + x^2+4x-21
Though I guess they're not really asking for the area under the curve, so I don't "technically" have to find it.
there is no upper bound though
g(x) is the area so far function whatever x you plug in, it's the area from x = -4 to that inputted x value
Right, right, gotcha. It just goes off into infinity somewhere (or stops/meets again at some unknown point)
it will go off to infinity because `7/3 + x^2+4x-21` has the leading term of `x^2` as x --> infinity, x^2 --> infinity
Yeah. em, when trying to calculate points for this, I keep coming up with imaginary numbers..? haha
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=-%282%2F3%29%28-3%29%5E%283%2F2%29%2B16%2F3
keep in mind that the piecewise function is set up where the first piece is from -4 to 0 (3 is not in this interval)
right, but I put -3 in there. it does the same with -4 and -2
if you did x = -3, then the -x would be equal to +3
....riight xD
ok, well, I guess you can stick around to see the graph haha but if not, thank you so much!! absolutely saved me lol
sure I can check that too. I graphed mine with geogebra if you wanted to see it
woah that would be awesome.
I'm drawing it by hand :| sigh
definitely better to use technology when you can the first piece of g(x) is marked in blue, the second in red, and the third in green
all I did was graph the three functions (each piece as a full function) then restrict the domain of each function so that things line up
That's so cool. I haven't heard of that geogebra before.
Right, the homework calls for "draw an accurate sketch" so...idk if it's required to be by hand or not. It would be so much better with the tech. but idk o.o
it's hard to say for sure, but the teacher may accept hand drawn graphs
Thanks! haha maybe I should turn in both xD
definitely not a bad idea
Yeah, i'll do that then. Thanks man :)
no problem
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