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OpenStudy (studygurl14):

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OpenStudy (studygurl14):

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

@Nnesha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are you just asking what g(x) and g'(x) are?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

I think so

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I agree on that much. Might want to experiment a bit. Supposing that g(x)=2x, what would g '(x) be? I'm not saying that this is the way to go, but you may learn something useful from trying this out.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

g'(x) = 2

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Actually, g '(x) would be 2dx.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[Let g(x) = (1/2)\sec(2x)\] Then \[g'(x) = 2(1/2)\sec2xtan2x = \sec2xtan2x.\] Is this what you are asking? I hope I didn't just answer the question completely. Just trying to ask what you're looking for.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Maybe u = cos 2x?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I think it best that you actually experiment with these various proposals. What would happen to the integral on the left were you to replace g(x) with 2x and replace g '(x) with 2dx?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

f(2x)(2)dx

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I agree with that. Are you now able to identify what the function f(x) might be?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Hint: sec 2x tan 2x is f(2x). sec u tan u would be f(u). What is f(x)? Hint #2: The integral of sec u tan u with respect to u is ... what?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Well...wouldn't 2f(2x) = sec 2x tan 2x?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

so f(x) = \(\Large\frac{\sec x \tan x}{2}\)

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

right?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I'll let you answer that. Please find the derivative, with respect to x, of your f(x).

OpenStudy (mathmale):

If your f(x) is correct, then this derivative should exactly match the given one on the riight.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

ok,. that'll take me a minute. hold on

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

I don't think it works out because I got \(\Large\frac{1}{2}sec^3 x - \tan^2 x\sec x\)

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Sorry, but I think I was off-track there. First of all, we are asked NOT to evaluate the integral. Second of all, we're asked to identify u = g(x) and du = g '(x)dx.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

I think u = g(x) = cos x and du = -sin x dx

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Again I ask you to consider the possibility that u=g(x) =2x, so that du=2dx. If you now attempt to write f(g(x))g '(x)dx using u=2dx, do you end up with the integrand on the right side of the given equation?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Of course you can try other g(x) and g '(x) if you like. In the end we have to find g(x) and g '(x) such that we obtain the integral of sec 2x tan 2x dx.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

I'm not sure how I'd do that.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Assume that f(u)=sec u tan u, and that g(x)=2x. Then g '(x) =2dx. Substitute these into the left side of the given (homework) equation. Do your results match the right side of the given equation?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

No...?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Also assume that u=g(x)=2x. Sorry for having forgotten the ' u .'

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

So you get 2 sec 2x tan 2x dx, right?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Let's try this (not really a big jump): Assume that \[f(u)=\frac{ \sec u \tan u }{ 2 }\]

OpenStudy (mathmale):

substitute u=g(x)=2x. f(2x)=?

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

\(\Large\frac{\sec 2x \tan 2x}{2}\)

OpenStudy (mathmale):

This is pretty much the same as the right side of the given equation. All we need to do now is to figure out why that '2' in the denom. hasn't cancelled out.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

hmmm...any ideas, lol?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

If g(x)=2x, then g '(x)=2dex, and this 2 will be cancelled out by the 2 in the denom. of our f(x).

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Excuse me, that's g '(x)=2dx

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Oh, right! I forgot we were multilplying by g'(x) as well

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Right.

OpenStudy (studygurl14):

Awesome, thank you. :)

OpenStudy (mathmale):

My great pleasure! Bye for now.

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