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\[\large \frac{ 3 }{ s-1 } + 1= \frac{ 12 }{ s^2 - 1 }\]
@mathstudent55
would the common denominator be \((s-1)(s^2-1)\)
your common multiple of s-1 and s^2-1 is not the least common multiple but it could work factor s^2-1 is a good start if you want to see least common multiple and make note of the restricted v alues
restricted values*
okay \(s^2-1s+1s-1\) \(s(s-1) + 1(s-1)\) \((s+1)(s-1)\)
right so your least common multiply of s^2-1 and s-1 is...
\((s+1)(s-1)\)
\[\frac{3}{s-1}+1=\frac{12}{s^2-1} \\ \frac{3}{s-1}+1=\frac{12}{(s-1)(s+1)} \\ \text{ \right so multiply both sides by } (s-1)(s+1) \\ \text{ keep in mind the final solution can definitely not be } 1 \text{ or } -1 \]
ok
if it is 1 or -1 then it will be an extraneous solution right?
right
ok. can you give me a moment as i solve the problem?
k
would it be \(s=5 \text{ }\text{and}\text{ } s=2\)?
half of your answer is right the other half is close
can I see the quadratic you ended up solving (before factoring if you factored )
\(s^2+3s-10\)
and how did you factor that quadratic expression
\(s^2 -2s + 5s - 10\) \(s(s-2) + 5(s-2)\) ok. i realize my mistake \(s = -5\) \(s = 2\)
that is right
thank you! i just wanted to get a tip: if i notice a quadratic expression on any of the denominators then i should factor it and go from there right?
yep or even a cubic or greater degree just so you can choose the least common multiple
ok. i need help on another one. can you help me?
it's basically on factoring a quadratic. \(6b^2 - 43b - 40\)
we can try to find factors of a*c that multiply to be a*c and have sum b that is: we can try to find factors of 6(-40) that multiply to be -240 and have sum -43
now I realize these numbers are a bit juicy so it might be a little intimidating
factors of -240 1, -240 (vice versa) 2, -120 (vice versa) 3, -80 (vice versa) 4, -60 (vice versa) 5, -48 (vice versa) okay so i think we can use -48 and 5 \(6b^2 + 5b - 48b - 40\) \(b(6b + 5) + -8(6b +5)\) \((b-8)(6b+5)\)
wow you did good
thank you!
you thought about this before asking I guess
i was processing what to do while typing it out.
but thank you for guiding me through these two questions! 😀
you do have problems finding two such factors you could cheat and acquire assistance from the quadratic formula \[6b^2-43b-40=0 \\ b=\frac{43 \pm \sqrt{43^2-4(6)(-40)}}{2(6)} =\frac{43 \pm 53}{12} =\frac{-10}{12},\frac{96}{12}=\frac{-5}{6},8 \\ b=\frac{-5}{6} , b=8 \\ 6b=-5, b=8 \\ 6b+5=0 , b-8=0 \\ \text{ the two factors of } 6b^2-43b-40 \text{ are } (6b+5) \text{ and } b-8\] does require calculator though since no one wants to square 43 :p
when i do know when it will be much more convenient to use the quadratic formula over the AC method or vice-versa?
If the numbers get much more bigger I said use the quadratic formula because you will certainly have a lot of numbers to go through if the numbers get bigger
okay thanks for the advice!
i do prefer AC method though when the numbers are easy to work with or small because I don't have to go through many possibilities to find what works
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