Integration question..any idea? its below
\[\int\limits_{?}^{?} \frac{ x ^{5m-1 } +2x ^{4m-1}dx}{ (x ^{2m}+x ^{m}+ 1)^{3} }\]
indefinite integral
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@IrishBoy123 ?? i didn't get u..?
oh ok
@ganeshie8 first of all we can simplifie this fraction - not ? and this ,,dx" from numerator not has place next the fraction line ?
- sorry - but i worked a long time ago with integration - but my first opinion is these above wrote
I'm thinking of partial fractions and also trying to simplify the denominator by writing it as \(\dfrac{1-x^{3m}}{1-x^m}\) but these all look painful
its ok..thanks anyway
Still ugly, slightly pretty though: \[\int \frac{x^{m-1} (x+2)}{(x^m+1+x^{-m})^3 }dx\]
That actually leads to a possibly nice substitution that may or may not lead anywhere, \(x^m=u\) \[\frac{1}{m} \int \frac{ u^{1/m}+2}{(u+1+u^{-1})^3 }du\]
Divide \(x^{6m}\) top and botttom
@Empty i think u have made a mistake in the numerator.. its (x^m+2)..right?
\[\int \frac{ x ^{5m-1 } +2x ^{4m-1}dx}{ (x ^{2m}+x ^{m}+ 1)^{3} } =\int \frac{ x ^{-m-1 } +2x ^{-2m-1}dx}{ (1+x ^{-m}+ x^{-2m})^{3} } \]
see the obvious substitution ?
cool!!!
if we first multiply by x/x you get \[ \frac{x^{5m}+2x^{4m} }{x(x^{2m}+x^m+1)^3} \ dx\] now use Empty's sub: \[ \frac{ u^5 + 2u^4}{x(u^2+u+1)^3} \frac{1}{m} \frac{1}{x^{m-1}} \ du \\ \frac{1}{m}\frac{1}{u}\frac{ u^5 + 2u^4}{(u^2+u+1)^3} \ du \] and then \[ \frac{1}{m} \int \frac{u^3(u+2)}{(u^2+u+1)^3 } \ du \]
ya !! i think i got a clue ..i will try and tell u!!
I think we need to be careful when dividing top and bottom, we may not always get the correct answer
Here were my steps: \[\int \frac{ x ^{5m-1 } +2x ^{4m-1}dx}{ (x ^{2m}+x ^{m}+ 1)^{3} } = \int \frac{x^{4m-1}( x ^{m } +2) dx}{ (x^m)^3(x ^{m}+1+x ^{-m})^{3} }\] \[=\int \frac{x^{m-1} (x+2)}{(x^m+1+x^{-m})^3 }dx\]
But yeah, this is old news just sorta showing @priyar who was asking
i got: \[1/2m (\frac{ 1 }{( x ^{-2m}+x ^{-m}+1)^{2} })\]
is this correct? @ganeshie8 ?
You should never ask that question. Differentiate and see if you get back the integrand :)
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=differentiate+1%2F%282m%29*x%5E%284m%29+%2F+%281%2Bx%5Em%2Bx%5E%282m%29%29%5E2 Looks we're good ! :)
\[1/2m (\frac{ 1 }{( x ^{-2m}+x ^{-m}+1)^{2} }) = \dfrac{x^{4m}}{2m(1+x^m+x^{2m})^2}\]
ya i got the correct answer..there was some net connection problem..so couldn't reply..
Thanks all!
nice idea @ganeshie8 !
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