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OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Pre-Calculus question. Increasing, decreasing; local minimum/maximum. Not sure whether to use derivative or not as I'm 87% sure I haven't learned that (isn't that Calculus anyway?) http://prntscr.com/a2y6z8

geerky42 (geerky42):

Yeah it's Calculus, but can't you just use graphing calculator?

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

I tried but I got stuck > <; (also I haven't slept since 1 pm yesterday and it's 4 pm so o_o)

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

http://www.algebra.com/algebra/homework/Functions/Functions.faq.question.198715.html this one says use derivative so > > I'm not sure. I'm struggling with my graphing calculator

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Okay here's what I got off Wolfram http://prntscr.com/a2ybxy

geerky42 (geerky42):

Calculus is an easy way to solve, but since you haven't learn, graphing is your best shot. Here's I have graphed it for you: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/ant7xs7pl3 In between local minimum/maximum or discontinuity, it either increases or decreases, right? You should be able to tell from graph

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

OH I FORGOT ABOUT THAT WEBSITE > <

geerky42 (geerky42):

So there are four intervals: \((-\infty, -\sqrt{21}), (-\sqrt{21}, 0), (0, \sqrt{21}), \)and \((\sqrt{21}, \infty)\)

geerky42 (geerky42):

Intervals in middle should be easy part. YOu got this?

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

It wants decimal form, so it's similar to the min and max I have earlier in the problem, yes?

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

http://prntscr.com/a2yei8 Okay I got the intervals somewhat

geerky42 (geerky42):

Yeah, \(\sqrt{21}\approx4.58\)

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

do I have to test the intervals? o-o

geerky42 (geerky42):

Nah, if you "read" graph from left and right, if it goes down, it decreases, but if it goes up, then it increase. That makes sense, right?

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Yeah but I thought the asymptote was\[x=\sqrt{21}\]

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Also I don't see where it goes up,that's the issue > <

geerky42 (geerky42):

Asymptote is only \(x=0\) But you can see where it goes down, right?

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Yes

geerky42 (geerky42):

Okay, right after \(\sqrt{21}\), does it increase or decrease? you can zoom in to see closely lol

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Okay @ @

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

It seems to flatline a bit then dip down slowly

geerky42 (geerky42):

I compressed y-axis for you; it should be easy now https://www.desmos.com/calculator/2xd6cosy27

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

OH, I see. That was on Wolfram's secondary graph as well

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

It dips pretty fast

geerky42 (geerky42):

You can change axes range in graph settings on top-right :)

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Okay :]

geerky42 (geerky42):

dip? that's another word for decrease?

geerky42 (geerky42):

because it looks increasing to me

geerky42 (geerky42):

At \(x=\sqrt{21}\) and forward, it increases

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Oh yeah, it increases then drops down fast* sorry lol

geerky42 (geerky42):

Oh well that's for \(x<0\), increase slowly then go down fast. Opposite goes for \(x>0\); drop down fast then increase slowly

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Q: When do I know to adjust the y-increments?

geerky42 (geerky42):

So now you know which intervals are increasing and decreasing, right?

geerky42 (geerky42):

you do that when it looks flat, you change y-increments to "zoom in"

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Er... still a little confused. I get the increasing part but where does it stop increasing o-o

geerky42 (geerky42):

for \(x>0\), it never stops lol

geerky42 (geerky42):

it just increase slower and slower and slower...

geerky42 (geerky42):

It is approaching to 0. but it wont reach 0.

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

So then... http://prntscr.com/a2ykdt

geerky42 (geerky42):

You do agree that \((-\sqrt{21}, 0)\) and \((0, \sqrt{21})\) are decreasing intervals, right?

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Yes, I believe they are. At least from a left-to-right perspective.

geerky42 (geerky42):

Yeah, so put that for decreasing. Then put the remaining intervals for increasing part.

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Wait what x x;

geerky42 (geerky42):

There are four intervals: \((-\infty, -\sqrt{21}), (-\sqrt{21}, 0), (0, \sqrt{21}), \)and \((\sqrt{21}, \infty)\) \((-\sqrt{21}, 0), (0, \sqrt{21})\) are decreasing \((-\infty, -\sqrt{21}), (\sqrt{21}, \infty)\) are increasing

geerky42 (geerky42):

Sorry for confusion!

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

okay ascending: (-inf, -4.58) U (4.58, inf) descending: (-4.58, 0) U (0,4.58)??

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Yesss I lagged sorry > <

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

But thank you ^ - ^

geerky42 (geerky42):

Looks good

geerky42 (geerky42):

Did I help clearing thing up?

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Yes :D Thank you very much!! ☺

geerky42 (geerky42):

No problem

OpenStudy (kittiwitti1):

Oh yes I might also need help on this one - http://prntscr.com/a2yng7 @geerky42 (if you're busy then it's okay! ^^; )

geerky42 (geerky42):

25 mph is correct :)

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