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OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

Linear inequalities

OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

((x+a)/b)≥a/(x+b), where a,b>0

OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

the answer is supposed to be -a-b≤x<-b i can get -a-b≤x but I don't know how to get the other part

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Have you assumed that x+b > 0?

OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

no. technically x could be negative?

OpenStudy (phi):

I would write your problem as \[ \frac{x+a}{b}-\frac{a}{x+b} \ge 0 \] or \[ \frac{(x+a)(x+b) -ab}{b(x+b) }\ge 0 \]

OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

hm...i cross multiplied and simplified to get x^2+bx+ax+ab≥ab = x^2+bx+ax≥0 =x(x+b+a)≥0 =x≥-b-a

OpenStudy (phi):

simplify that to \[ \frac{x(x+(a+b))}{b(x+b)}\ge 0 \] b is >=0 so the "b" in the denominator it won't change the sign of that expression, so just consider \[ \frac{x(x+(a+b))}{(x+b)}\ge 0 \]

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

...and when you did that, you assumed x+b > 0. Now, go back and make the other assumption.

OpenStudy (phi):

you have 3 factors, and if all 3 are positive, or 2 of the 3 are negative, you will get a positive result i.e. >=0

OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

OH is it because if i assumed that x+b<0, then my answer would be -a-b≥x instead of -a-b≤x?

OpenStudy (phi):

assuming all 3 factors are >=0 gives your first result. now consider x and x+ b both negative (luckily we know that is the only combo we have to consider), because the numbers must be x <= x+b <= x+a+b

OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

sorry just to confirm what are the 3 factors?

OpenStudy (phi):

\[ \frac{x(x+(a+b))}{(x+b)}\ge 0 \] that expression is positive if x<0 & x+a <0 and (x+a+b)>0

OpenStudy (phi):

**that expression is positive if x<0 & x+b <0 and (x+a+b)>0

OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

first of all does that mean that this <0 and >0 can only be this way? like e.g. x cant be >0 secondly, does that mean that i'm wrong to say that x(x+b+a)≥0 since x<0?

OpenStudy (phi):

I don't understand the first question. for the second question for x<0 x * (x+ a+b) will be negative for when x > -(a+b) because you will have neg * plus = neg result if x is less than -(a+b), then you would get neg*neg = positive result.

OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

ah alright. But then how would I get x<-b?

OpenStudy (phi):

let's back up a bit if you know A<B<C and you have the expression A*B*C >= 0 it's clear if A is positive, then so is B and C (i.e. all >0) and their product is positive i.e >0 if A is neg and both B and C are positive, their product is negative (i.e. < 0) so we don't want that case if A and B are neg and C is positive that has a positive product i.e. >0 does that all make sense ?

OpenStudy (phi):

and we don't want all 3 negative, because their product is neg and we want the product >0

OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

yup

OpenStudy (phi):

now the three factors are A= x B= (x+b) (because we only care about the sign, it does not matter if we divide or multiply) C= (x+a+b)

OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

ok

OpenStudy (phi):

so one case is x<0 and x+b < 0 (at the same time, i.e. both are negative) that becomes x<0 and at the same time x<-b so x <-b is required for both quantities to be negative (I think we don't want x<= -b because x=-b causes a divide by 0) at the same time , we require the largest expression C = (x+a+b) >=0 which means x>= -(a+b)

OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

YUP

OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

u've been explaining this to me for about 20 minutes. thank you so much :D (wish i could fan u twice)

OpenStudy (phi):

to be complete we have to consider the case where all 3 A,B and C are >=0 i.e. x>=0 x>= -b x>= -(a+b) which boils down to x>=0

OpenStudy (wcrmelissa2001):

OH I THINK I GET IT. I SEE THE LIGHT. THANK YOU!!!!!!!

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