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OpenStudy (amy0799):

Calculus

OpenStudy (amy0799):

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Start at x =0. Is f(x) above the x-axis?

OpenStudy (amy0799):

some of it is

OpenStudy (amy0799):

I think it's decreasing at (-2,0]U[2,4] is that correct?

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

There is no "some of it" AL x = 0. It either is or isn't.

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

f(x) is decreasing on (-2,0). Does this say anything about F(x)? In calculating the Riemann Integral, where does f(x) contribute positive area to F(x)?

OpenStudy (amy0799):

(-2,2]

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

and (5,6) Okay, now consider the definition of F(x). What portion on (0,6) contributes positive area?

OpenStudy (amy0799):

(-2,2]U (5,6)

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

No, you did not consider the definition of F(x). You thought only about f(x). F(x) doesn't exist until x = 0. Try again.

OpenStudy (amy0799):

[0,6)

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Think a little harder about (3,5). Does f(x) contribute POSITIVE area to F(x) on (3,5)?

OpenStudy (amy0799):

no, it has a negative area

OpenStudy (amy0799):

so it's positive from (0,2)U(5,6]?

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Now, answer the question. Where is F(x) DECREASING?

OpenStudy (amy0799):

(3,5)?

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Done!

OpenStudy (amy0799):

Can you help me on part 2? @tkhunny

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Can you find the first derivative of F(x)?

OpenStudy (amy0799):

Isn't it just the slope?

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

The slope of what? We don't have a picture of F(x). The picture of f(x) IS the first derivative of F(x). You need to see this.

OpenStudy (amy0799):

oh ok. The only place I see it is concave down is at (1,3)

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

NO, you're not quite seeing what you need to see. You are trying to answer where f(x) is concave down. That is not the question. The question is when is F(x) concave down? You still haven't answered the question. Do you see the relationship? F(x) is defined in terms of f(x). The first derivative of F(x) is F'(x) = f(x). The second derivative of F(x) is F"(x) = f'(x). In order to answer questions about the concavity of F(x), you need the second derivative of F(x). You need F"(x) = f'(x). The second derivative of F(x) is the slope of f(x). Where is the slope of f(x) negative?

OpenStudy (amy0799):

(2,4)

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

I think you have it. This is a very difficult problem. It is very hard to keep track of what you are talking about. F(x) and f(x) are related, but they should not be confused.

OpenStudy (amy0799):

Thank you so much for the help! And sorry if I frustrated you for not understanding this. @tkhunny

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

No frustration at all. This is very abstract. it is likely that it will take a few tries to get the hang of it. :-)

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