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OpenStudy (amy0799):

calculus

OpenStudy (amy0799):

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\large\rm g(x)=\int\limits_{-1}^x f(t)dt\]We would like to find a `maximum` for g(x). This will correspond to some critical point of g(x), yes? g'(x)=0 <-- to find maximum. So first, by using the FTC, Part 1, do you understand how to find g'(x)? :)

OpenStudy (amy0799):

yes, I think so

OpenStudy (amy0799):

you just plug in x into f(t) and the derivative of x is just 1

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Yes, you plug x into f(t), good. And nothing extra from chain rule since it was just an x. \[\large\rm g'(x)=f(x)\]From here we can use our chart to figure out what is going on.

OpenStudy (amy0799):

that's the part i'm stuck on. do i only look at f'(x) since i'm finding a relative maximum?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

It's a little strange :) But we're saying that the derivative of g(x) is the same as f(x). Not that g(x) is the same as f(x). So we'll have to be careful in our chart.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So we're looking for critical points, \(\large\rm g'(x)=f(x)=0\) So what do we have for `candidates`? What possible values could be our maximum? Look for f(x)=0

OpenStudy (amy0799):

-1 and 2

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Mmm k good good good.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Now think about g'(x). It has to be `positive` then `negative` to create a hilltop, yes? That would correspond to a maximum. So again, don't be tempted into looking at f'(x). We don't want anything to do with him :) g'(x) is our f(x).

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So we want to know where f(x) goes from `positive` to `negative`

zepdrix (zepdrix):

|dw:1453846341594:dw|Any ideas? :) Still confused?

OpenStudy (amy0799):

x=2

zepdrix (zepdrix):

|dw:1453846421720:dw|Ah, yes. Good job! :)

OpenStudy (amy0799):

Thank you! Do you mind helping me with one more question?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

sure!

OpenStudy (amy0799):

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\large\rm f(x)=x^2,\qquad g(x)=\sin x,\qquad h(x)=\int\limits_{-1}^{g(x)}f(t)dt\]Hmm these problems are neat :D Very sneaky questions.

OpenStudy (amy0799):

yes, yes they are I'm confused whether sinx goes into f(t) or x^2 does

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Before dealing with the pi/6 business, let's find our h'(x) using FTC, Part 1.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Any ideas what that will look like? :) It's going to be a little messy since our upper bound is more than just an x.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Sorry I sort of ignored what you said because we really would like to avoid plugging anything in at this point :)) It will make things way easier for us, hopefully.

OpenStudy (amy0799):

sorta \[\int\limits_{-1}^{sinx}f(t)dt\] h'(x)=sin(x)^2 This is what i think it'll look like

zepdrix (zepdrix):

No no no XD See you plugged stuff in, bahhh :D lol

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ok you were close though :))

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\large\rm h(x)=\int\limits_{-1}^{g(x)}f(t)dt\]FTC, Part 1 gives us,\[\large\rm h'(x)=f(g(x))\cdot g'(x)\]Take a look at that a sec :O Too confusing? The f(g(x)) is actually the part you came up with. We just forgot that we have to chain rule when the upper bound is more than an x.

OpenStudy (amy0799):

so i just have to take the derivative of sinx^2?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

g(x)=sin x So it looks like it's simpler than that. g'(x)=cos x

OpenStudy (amy0799):

aren't we taking the derivative of sin^2x instead of sinx?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\large\rm h(x)=\int\limits_{-1}^{stuff} f(t)dt\]Integrating leads to some anti-derivative function, let's call it F(t).\[\large\rm h(x)=F(t)|_{-1}^{stuff}\]Let's plug in our limits,\[\large\rm h(x)=F(stuff)-F(-1)\]Taking derivative brings us back to little f, but now we have some chain rule going on,\[\large\rm h'(x)=f(stuff)stuff'-0\]So no, this process doesn't require us to take the derivative of the "entire thing", only the stuff that was the upper bound.

OpenStudy (amy0799):

ooh, so h'(x)=-sinxcosx

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\large\rm h'(x)=f(g(x))\cdot g'(x)\]\[\large\rm h'(x)=f(\sin x)\cdot (\sin x)'\]\[\large\rm h(x)=(\sin x)^2\cdot (\cos x)\]

OpenStudy (amy0799):

oh ok, I see. So now you plug in pi/6 into the x's

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Yes :)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

That last line should be h'(x), I made a typo. Hopefully you noticed that though :D

OpenStudy (amy0799):

\[\sqrt{3}/8\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

yay good job!

OpenStudy (amy0799):

YAY!! Thank you so much for the help!! :D

zepdrix (zepdrix):

np c:

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