Need pre-calculus help will give owlbucks
Let A (2, -1,) B (3, 1,) C (-4, 2,) and D (1, -5). Find the component form and magnitude of the vector. ---- ---- CD - AB?
hmmm I assume you mean \(\bf C\cdot D-A\cdot B\impliedby \textit{as in dot product}\)
No they have line segments above them. and for CD I GOT -4,10 and AB I got 6,-1
hmm ohh hmm
\(\bf \overline{CD}-\overline{AB}\) right?
maybe A,B,C,D are points given and we want to find the standard form for both vectors CD and AB. and then find the difference
Sorry i was doing something and yes thats right
i will take a screen shot
hmm have you done 8 and 9 yet? so I assume you've got those values already? I mean, 10 is the same pretty much :)
\[\text{ a vector with initial point } (a,b) \text{ and terminal point } (x,y) \text{ has standard form } \\ (x-a,y-b)\]
No, i have not I just chose one of the hardest ones that look hardest so i didn't do the addition ones just did the subtraction one
heheh anyhow... notice above @myininaya 's line to get teh vector component form from the given points
ok so i n ab and xy i would enter CD and AB?
Yes
so... CD will be (-4, 2) and (1, -5) thus < 1-(-4) , -5 - 2 >
oh thats it ?
that isn't the final answer if that is what you mean
so i would need this formula
yes you do that same thing for other vector in your difference
Oh ok i expected more
i mean i do expect more
also I guess to be less confusing we could have used < > instead of ( ) for our vector notation thing
so 5 and -7?
oops but @jdoe0001 did that :p
for the vector component form, yes and you'd do the same with AB 2, -1 and 3, 1 thus AB wiill be < 3-2, 1-(-1) > notice, you have \(\bf \overline{CD}-\overline{AB}\implies <CD>-<AB>\) which is pretty much, just an addition
oh so this is almsot like dot product but for each line segment
Ok so these two would be the component form <5,-7>VECTOR and <1,1> INITIAL points?
be careful 1-(-1) is 1+1 which is 2 not 1
o crap that got me
and then to do something like <m,n>-<r,s> = <m-r,n-s>
thanks
so <5,-7>-<1,2> = ?
4,-8
o wait
your first component is right
your second one needs work
-9?
yes <4,-9> is right if there wasn't some arithmetic error I made or I missed
i will most check this again cus i have test tommorow and am studying , but kinda learning at the same time
i apprieciate your help, so this is just the componenet vector?
wait i can review it
C(-4,2) D (1,-5) (X-A,Y-B)
yes or you could write it as 4i-9j
(-4-1, 2--5) (-5,7)
where i and j are unit vectors i=<1,0> j=<0,1>
Ok i think its right, so how will i find magnitude , would i have to find the component vector first
Oh ok, so this I and J this is the terminal point or initial point?
\[v=ai+bj \\ \text{ had maginitude } \sqrt{(a)^2+(b)^2} \text{ which is denoted } |v| \\ \text{ I put ( ) around the } i \text{ and } j \text{ component } \\ \text{ because most people don't square the whole thing when there is a negative } \\ \text{ it normally is written } \sqrt{a^2+b^2}\]
oh ok
so for example if you have v=-i+2j then |v|=sqrt((-1)^2+2^2)=sqrt(1+4)=sqrt(5) and another example if you have v=3i-j then |v|=sqrt(3^2+(-1)^2)=sqrt(9+1)=sqrt(10)
i and j are unit vectors
Wait it did not convert to symbols for me i have to refresh
I didn't use pretty symbols
Oh ok just making sure
sqrt( ) just means principal square root in thise case
I know just sometimes my openstudy glitches but i can write them down
\[v=-i+2j \implies |v|=\sqrt{(-1)^2+2^2}=\sqrt{1+4}=\sqrt{5} \\ v'=3i-j \implies |v'|=\sqrt{3^2+(-1)^2}=\sqrt{9+1}=\sqrt{10}\]
those were the two examples I used above
Oh ok thanks
i went ahead and renamed the other vector v' instead of v
I don't like two different vectors having the same name :p
Lol thats fine! Ive met you before your very good on mathematics especially on unique sets
So i would do this to the unit vectors i got before which were 4 and -9
?
you can write it as <4,-9> or 4i-9j but the form they are looking for is <4,-9>
Ok i got sqrt65
and remember i and j are just unit vectors i=<1,0> and j=<0,1> always! 4i-9j 4<1,0>-9<0,1> <4,0>+<0,-9> <4,-9> the forms are equivalent though as shown here
Im sorry Myinana but i must go i have to go eat, i will be back and hoepfully youll be back!
\[|<4,-9>|=\sqrt{4^2+(-9)^2}=\sqrt{16+81}=...\]
O sorry 97 ill be back
k sqrt(97) and okay p.s. it looks like you didn't square both of components fully as I was talking about earlier don't miss squaring the negative part of the component
see ya later
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Hi
hi
Ok sorry so Sqrt-97 did i miss something
why you insert a negative
sorry i meant it as atachment
Sqrt97
\[\sqrt97\]
sqrt(97) is correct where as sqrt(65) incorrect the note earlier was refering to... what it appeared that you did it appeared you did sqrt(-9^2+4^2) instead of sqrt((-9)^2+4^2)
Yes
This is the magnitude?
yep
Wow thank you!
the magnitude is usually denoted as |vector goes here|
\[v=ai+bj \\ \text{ has magnitude } |v|=\sqrt{a^2+b^2}\]
Wait im sorry Myin what do i put when it says terminal point: and then Initial point: is that part of this problem? or is that the I , J you were talking about
if you want to find the vector in standard form (position) and you are given the initial point of the vector is (a,b) and the terminal point (x,y) then the vector in standard position is <x-a,y-b>
i and j are unit vectors
i is the vector <1,0> where as j is the vector <0,1>
another way to write ai+bj is <a,b> these two forms are equivlanet ai+bj a<1,0>+b<0,1> <a,0>+<0,b> <a,b>
Oh ok thank you
I have sent you owlbucks
awww thanks you didn't have too i would have helped anyways but thank you kindly
Have a good night i guess, i will be making a new question if you are interested!
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