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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Calculus problem. Help for a medal! :) (posting below)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits_{}^{}(\csc(2x))dx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I decided that... u= 2x du=2dx

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Do u know the integral of cosec x ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think it's -csc(x)cot(x).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or maybe that's the derivative?

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Dis is not its integral ...u r telling me the differential form of ir...

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Exactly the latter one...

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Anyways the integral is ln(cosecx-cotx)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do you get to that answer?

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Ok...i will show u the work...

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

It's like u can multiply n divide cosecx dx by (cosecx-cotx)

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Cosecx(cscx-cotx)dx/cscx-cotx

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Like dis...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is that a trig rule?

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

For simplicity purpose i have used this rule...

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Now u can open up the bracket in numerator term n the equation u will get is csc^2x-cscx cotx

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Did u get it till here?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just a moment

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If I were to show this is the form of u-substitution, what exactly would I make u?

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

I m telling u the integral of cosec x ....if u know that u can solve dis problem easily

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay.

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

So u got it till now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I believe so

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Gud...

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Now what u have to do is jst put the denominAtor term which is cscx-cotx as t ....then differentiate it. Like cscx-cotx=t (-Cscxcotx+csc^2x)dx=dt...

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Did u get it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Somewhat. Just keep going, and it'll probably make more sense.

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Oh...that's absolutely fine vid me...

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Okk so now this term dt is exactly matching with our numerator term of integration.... So now jst replace that by dt n the denominator by t....

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

So finally u will b left vid integration of dt/t which is lnt....

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Now put the value of t back in this equation which is cscx-cotx...

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

So ans will be ln(cscx-cotx)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So it'd be... \[\frac{1}{2}\ln (\csc(2x)-\cot(2x))\]

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Exactly u got it ryt....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oops I forgot the "-" on the 1/2 and the "+ C"

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Y a -ve sign?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well I have an answer document, that says there's a "-" sign. I'm not 100% sure why though.

OpenStudy (samigupta8):

Actually the integral of cscx-cotx is ln|cscx-cotx|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So there's no reason there should be a "-"?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay I figured out why there's a negative sign... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byB0Vz3dcsE

OpenStudy (welshfella):

wolfram gives the following result http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Integrate+++cosec+%282x%29

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Symbolab also gives... https://www.symbolab.com/solver/integral-calculator/%5Cint%5Cleft(csc%5Cleft(2x%5Cright)%5Cright)dx/?origin=enterkey So I have no idea what's right.

OpenStudy (welshfella):

sometimes you can get different integrals but both are right

OpenStudy (welshfella):

wolfram used the substitution u = 2x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

My book gives me \[-\frac{1}{2}\ln|\csc(2x)+\cot(2x)|+C\] Do you know how to get this answer?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Specifically

OpenStudy (welshfella):

yea i got that in my book too!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What book do you have?

OpenStudy (welshfella):

i think the wolfram method is easier yoy need to integrate |dw:1454186682105:dw|

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