Can someone please explain to me how to factor this s^2+13s+40?
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You have a trinomial of the form: \(x^2 + ax + b\) The variable in your case is s instead of x, but the form is the same. The important thing to see is that the square variable is only multiplied by 1.
8+5=13 8*5=40
All you need to do is set up two sets of parentheses. \((s~~~~~)(s~~~~~~~)\) Then you need to find two numbers whose product is b and whose sum is a.
If you compare your polynomial with \(x^2 + ax + b\) \(s^2 + 13s + 40\) you have a = 13 and b = 40 What are two numbers that multiply to 40 and add to 13?
40 = 40 * 1 = 40; 40 + 1 = 41 (not 13) 20 * 2 = 40; 20 + 2 = 22 (not 13) 10 * 4 = 40; 10 + 4 = 14 (not 13) 8 * 5 = 40; 8 + 5 = 13 (just what we need) That means the two numbers you need that multiply to 40 and add to 13 are 8 and 5. You already had the two sets of parentheses with s in them, now just write each of the numbers in a parentheses: \(s^2 + 13s + 40 = \) \(=(s~~~~~)(s~~~~~~) \) \(=(s + 8)(s + 5) \)
Keep in mind that this method only works for a square trinomial of the form \(x^2 + ax + b\) where the x^2 term has no coefficient (other than 1).
@riley101 Do you understand?
Would you like to see another example?
I think i understand but would it be different if it was subtraction instead of addition?
so like 2s^2-14s-156?
The method is still the same. Let me do this simpler example. Then I'll show you how to do yours. Here is an example where there is a subtraction. Factor: \(x^2 -2x - 15\)
Here you have again a trinomial of second degree. You see an x^2 term with no number multiplying it. It is followed by an x-term and by a number. It follows the form \(x^2 + ax + b\), so we can use our method. 1. Setup two sets of parentheses with just x on the left side \(x^2 - 2x - 15\) \(= (x~~~~~~~)(x~~~~~~~)\)
Now you need two numbers that multiply to -15 and add to -2.
Since -15 is a negative number, the only two numbers that multiply to a negative number are a positive number and a negative number. What two numbers multiply to -15 and add to -2?
whats the easiest way to find those numbers without having to divide starting from one going up?
5-3?
or -3-5?
5 and -3 do multiply to -15. Now add them. What do you get?
2?
but its not negative
Yes. We need the sum to be -2, not positive 2. All you need is a small adjustment. Instead of 5 and -3, you need -5 and 3.
okay so (x+-5)(x+3)
Now look: -5 * 3 = -15; -5 + 3 = -2 Now we get the product of -15 and the sum of -2. That confirms that the numbers we need are -5 and 3. Now you just place each number inside a set of parentheses following the x. \((x - 5)(x + 3)\)
You are correct. It's just that x + (-5) is simply x - 5.
Now we can try your problem. Are you ready?
Okay thank you. I'm ready
Factor \(2s^2-14s-156\)
The first rule of factoring: Try to factor a common factor from all terms if possible.
Do the numbers 2, -14, and 156 have a common factor?
the common factor is 2
Correct. We first factor a 2 from all terms. Can you do that?
-7, 78
is it -156, actually?
When we factor out a common factor, we are using the distributive property in reverse. The result of factoring out a common term must be a factored expression that when you use the distributive property on it, you get back the original expression. \(2s^2-14s-156\) \(2(s^2 - 7s - 78)\)
Notice that if you were to start with the second line above and distribute the 2, you'd end up with your original problem.
Okay thats what I had initially and i thought that was the final answer lol
Now that we have factored out the 2, we end up with a second degree trinomial that starts with simply \(s^2\). That is the kind of trinomial we have been factoring in this post, so we can do it.
Now we ask the question: What two numbers multiply to -78 and add to -7?
The thing i am having the hardest time with is finding numbers that are the sum and product of the negative numbers
Start by finding any numbers that multiply to 78. Just think of any two positive numbers that multiply to 78. One pair is always easy: 78 and 1. Can you think of other pairs of numbers whose product is 78?
What is 78 divisible by?
6 x13
-13 +6
Excellent. 6 * 13 = 78. Since we really need the product to be -78, and not 78, we need to have a positive number and a negative number. You can have -6 * 13 or 6 * (-13) Both have a product of -78 that we need. Does either one of those two pairs add to -7?
Oh, you got it already. You're too fast for me.
Great. The numbers are -13 and 6 since -13 * 6 = -78 -13 + 6 = -7
so its 2(s-13)(s+6)?
Now all you need to do is place the two numbers you found int he parentheses like we did above. \(2s^2-14s-156\) \(2(s^2 - 7s - 78)\) \(2(s - 13)(s + 6) \)
Correct. Once again, you beat me to it. Next time, I'll ask you for help!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Ok, sorry, but gtg.
BTW, this method works for second degree trinomials in which the coefficient of the square term is 1. If the coefficient of the square term is not 1, there is a different method that is a little more complicated, but it's still pretty simple to do. For example: \(6x^2 - 11x - 35\) cannot be factored using this method. 6, -11, and -35 have no common factors, so you can't factor out a common factor to make this trinomial start with a coefficient of 1.
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