As a box slides down a ramp, friction does 23.0J of work. At the bottom of the ramp, the box has 3.8J of kinetic energy and is traveling at 2.8 m/sec. How high is the ramp?
@SolomonZelman
Weird problem...
I just do not have any formulas for this, and need some help setting it up
Yeah working through it now, just dont want to give it away lol
O, thanks!
Hmm it's weird, I'm missing 1 variable...gimme a sec :) Maybe typing it out here will help
So first, lets look at the fact they gave us the kinetic energy at the bottom of the ramp 3.8J when traveling at 2.8m/s Remember our equation for kinetic energy? \[\large K.E = \frac{1}{2}mv^2\] Since we are given K.E and 'v' we can solve here for the mass of the box...what would that be?
You there?
Regardless, this is just a conservation of energy problem, the potential energy at the top is equal to the kinetic energy at the bottom plus any work done by friction \[\large P.E = K.E + W_f\] After calculating your mass, we write out this equation *with the fact we are given both the kinetic energy and the frictional work \[\large mgh = 3.8J + 23J\] Solving for 'h' we have \[\large h = \frac{26.8J}{mg}\] Plug in your found mass, multiply it by gravity and carry out this equation to find your height!
Ok, sounds good. I'll show my work in a sec!
Thanks, @johnweldon1993
No problem!
@johnweldon1993 I'm sorry, right as you offered this great explanation, I became occupied with something else, and am just now getting back to this. Solving Kinetic Energy for mass gives me a number in Newton meters. What am I doing wrong?
I understand what is going on, but I am messing up on that specific calculation
Newton*meter is not a unit of mass, but of work done.
Sorry, was away for a bit So the kinetic energy is the problem here? \[\large K.E = \frac{1}{2}\text{mass}v^2\] \[\large 3.8J = \frac{1}{2}\text{mass}(2.8(\frac{m}{s})^2)\] \[\large 3.8J = \text{mass}(3.92\frac{m^2}{s^2})\] \[\large \text{mass} = \frac{0.97J}{\frac{m^2}{s^2}}\] We know \(\large J = kg\frac{m^2}{s^2}\) so we have \[\large \frac{0.97kg\cancel{\frac{m^2}{s^2}}}{\cancel{\frac{m^2}{s^2}}}\] Leaving \(\large 0.97kg\)
Ah, I see it now. Thanks so much
And the height of the ramp would be ~2.82 meters high.
Sound about right??
Sorry again >.< yeah that's about what I remember getting!
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