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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Case closed wew

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Oo this one is a little tricky :) Integration by parts business ya?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yas sure hahaha

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I need to review everything

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\large\rm \mathscr L\{t^2\}\quad=\quad \int\limits_0^{\infty}t^2 e^{-st}dt\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\(\large\rm u=t^2,\qquad\qquad dv=e^{-st}dt\)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

du and v? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

du= 2t

OpenStudy (danjs):

i remember spending a ton of time practicing those things while in the class..., convolution , step function, shift, exe... now i can't remember a dam thing, well the integral definition i did

zepdrix (zepdrix):

good good good.

OpenStudy (danjs):

prolly returns quickly if you practice a little

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@DanJS Haha i even forgot everything 'bout integ

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\large\rm \mathscr L\{t^2\}\quad=\quad \int\limits\limits_0^{\infty}t^2 e^{-st}dt\]\[\large\rm \mathscr L\{t^2\}\quad=\quad uv-\int\limits v~du\]\[\large\rm \mathscr L\{t^2\}\quad=\quad -\frac{1}{s}t^2e^{-st}-\int\limits\left(-\frac{1}{s}\right)2t~e^{-st}~dt\]Something like this, yes?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

We'll have to evaluate everything at 0 and infinity, maybe we can do that now... or later... whatever you prefer.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Cause it looks like we have to apply Integration by Parts again :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh imma don't like integ by parts. Imma sure ill be getting lost

OpenStudy (danjs):

what was the point of changing from the ' t '-space to that 's'-space anyway, besides solving a DE easier in that land

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Let's bring any constant garbage out front, and combine the negatives,\[\large\rm \mathscr L\{t^2\}\quad=\quad -\frac{1}{s}t^2e^{-st}+\frac{2}{s}\color{orangered}{\int\limits\limits t e^{-st}~dt}\]So we're just applying parts to this orange portion.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh now that looks easier i think

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Similar assignment for u and dv would be appropriate, ya? \(\large\rm u=t,\qquad\qquad\qquad dv=e^{-st}dt\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

du= dt, v= e^-st/s

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\large\rm \mathscr L\{t^2\}\quad=\quad -\frac{1}{s}t^2e^{-st}+\frac{2}{s}\color{orangered}{\int\limits\limits\limits t e^{-st}~dt}\]\[\large\rm \mathscr L\{t^2\}\quad=\quad -\frac{1}{s}t^2e^{-st}+\frac{2}{s}\color{orangered}{\left[uv-\int\limits v~du\right]}\]\[\large\rm \mathscr L\{t^2\}\quad=\quad -\frac{1}{s}t^2e^{-st}+\frac{2}{s}\color{orangered}{\left[-\frac{1}{s}t e^{-st}-\int\limits \left(-\frac{1}{s}\right)e^{-st}dt\right]}\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Sorry if I'm stealing all the fun here :) I can slow down on the integrals lol.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It really okay haha

zepdrix (zepdrix):

That last integral is pretty straight forward, just another -1/s, in front of the exponential, right?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\large\rm \mathscr L\{t^2\}\quad=\quad -\frac{1}{s}t^2e^{-st}+\frac{2}{s}\color{orangered}{\left[-\frac{1}{s}t e^{-st}-\left(-\frac{1}{s}\right)\left(-\frac{1}{s}\right)e^{-st}\right]}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes yes im following you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How could i get 2/s^3?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Let's distribute to the orange stuff,\[\large\rm =-\frac{t^2e^{-st}}{s}-\frac{2te^{-st}}{s^2}-\frac{2e^{-st}}{s^3}\qquad |_0^{\infty}\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So that's all the stuff we have. You might see where we'll EXPECT to get the 2/s^3 from, right? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Quiet confused with this -2e^-st /s^3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah yes I got it now swear haha

zepdrix (zepdrix):

You have to evaluate all this mess at 0 and infinity. Maybe start with the FIRST TERM, cause you'll see something interesting happen.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not sure how can i get the transform 2/s^3 haha sorry

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Let's switch the limits and get rid of the negative in front\[\large\rm -\frac{t^2e^{-st}}{s}|_0^{\infty}\quad=\quad \frac{t^2e^{-st}}{s}|_{\infty}^0\quad=\quad \frac{0^2e^{-0}}{s}-\lim_{b\to\infty}\frac{b^2e^{-sb}}{s}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0+0+ 2/s^3 hahaha finally

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Do you understand how to show that the first two terms are 0 though? :) Requires L'Hopital's rule. As long as you understand that, then yes we can say 0+0+(the last part).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh sorry internet sucks. Thank you so much @zepdrix :)

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