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OpenStudy (thecalchater):

Calculus problems that I got wrong on a practice help explain?

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\frac{dT}{dz}=20z^3 \\ dT=20 z^3 dz \\ \text{ integrate both sides }\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

looks like you tried to differentiate one side

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\int\limits dT =\int\limits 20 z^3 dz \\ T=\int\limits 20z^3 dz=? \\ \text{ use power rule for integrals } \\ \int\limits z^n =\frac{z^{n+1}}{n+1}+C , n \neq -1 \]

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

alright I see what I did can you help with a few more or do you want me to open another question?

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

OpenStudy (freckles):

ok why do you think that 3x^2/2+4x is not an antiderivative of 3x+4? (3x^2/2+4x)'=6x/2+4=3x+4...

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

I didn't realize what they were talking about and now I see that it is a derivative of it.

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\int\limits f(x) dx=F(x)+C \\ \int\limits (3x+4)dx=\frac{3x^2}{2}+4x+C \]

OpenStudy (freckles):

just pluggin the the expressions

OpenStudy (freckles):

but anyways lets see if we can identified the real untrue choice

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[f(x)=3x+4 \\ f'(x)=(3x+4)' \\ f'(x)=(3x)'+(4)' \\ f'(x)=3+0 \\ f'(x)=3 \] first one is true

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

So for that we are just taking the derivative?

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[F(x)=\frac{3x^2}{2}+4x+k \\ \implies F'(x)=(\frac{3x^2}{2}+4x+k)'=\frac{6x}{2}+4+0=3x+4\] second one is true

OpenStudy (freckles):

the third one... well if f'=3 does the following seem true: \[\int\limits 3 dx=3x+4 ?\]

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

Oh I see thanks here is another one

OpenStudy (freckles):

it looks like you didn't find the correct antiderivaitve of -12u or 3

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\int\limits -12 u du=? \\ \int\limits 3 du=?\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

you could use power rule

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\int\limits -12 u du =-12 \int\limits u^1 du=? \\ \int\limits 3 du=3 \int\limits u^0 du=?\]

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

6u^2+C and 3u+C

OpenStudy (freckles):

-6u^2+C and 3u+C where these C's aren't necessarily the same

OpenStudy (freckles):

it looks like you chose blah-6u^3+3+C instead of blah-6u^2+3u+C

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

So just explain that I found the anti derivatives incorrectly? and when i show that they are the -6u^2 include the +c?

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

On this one I just screwed up the negative and positive

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

This one I am confused.... I found the derivative and it said it was 0...

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\int\limits_{a(x)}^{b(x)}g(s) ds=G(s)|_{a(x)}^{b(x)}=G(b(x))-G(a(x)) \text{ where } G'=g \\ \\ \text{ now differentiating both sides of } \\ \int\limits_{a(x)}^{b(x)} g(s) ds=G(b(x))-G(a(x)) \\ \text{ gives } \\ \frac{d}{dx} \int\limits_{a(x)}^{b(x)} g(s) ds= (G(b(x))-G(a(x)))'\] use chain rule to differentiate the right hand side (along with difference rule)

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

54x^2 right?

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\text{ should wind up with } \frac{d}{dx} \int\limits _{a(x)}^{b(x)} g(s) ds = b'(x) g(b(x))-a'(x) g(a(x)) \\ \text{ and your problem we have } \\ \frac{d}{dx} \int\limits _{-3x}^{3x} s^2 ds=(3x)'(3x)^2-(-3x)'(-3x)^2 \]

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

Alright thanks. Here is another I have this one and then one more.

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[3(9x^2)-(-3)(9x^2) \\ 3(9x^2)+3(9x^2) \\ 6(9x^2) \\ 54x^2 \] yep it looks like they are showing you the correct answer each time

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

i see that I forgot to add f(0) but i dont get the /6 part

OpenStudy (freckles):

can you show me what you have for trapezoid rule?

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

This is what I based it off of http://www.mathwords.com/t/trapezoid_rule.htm

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\Delta x =\frac{b-a}{n}\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

where n is the number of rectangles

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

Since it has /2 in it I should have multiplied it by 2 to get the /6?

OpenStudy (freckles):

sorry sub-intervals

OpenStudy (freckles):

we want 3 sub-intervals

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

right

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\Delta x =\frac{b-a}{n}=\frac{b-a}{3}\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

and then there is a 2 understand delta x

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\frac{\Delta x}{2} =\frac{1}{2} \Delta x =\frac{1}{2} (\frac{b-a}{3}) =\frac{b-a}{2(3)}=\frac{b-a}{6}\]

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

Ohhhhh I see it thanks. This is the last one.

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

I see that once again i forgot f(x_0)

OpenStudy (freckles):

and also I think the Delta x divided by a number confuses you

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

Yeah it does.

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\frac{\Delta x}{c} =\frac{1}{c} \Delta x=\frac{1}{c} (\frac{b-a}{n})=\frac{1(b-a)}{c(n)}=\frac{b-a}{cn}\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

c here being 3

OpenStudy (freckles):

so after that you should have just looked at a and d and eliminated one of those

OpenStudy (freckles):

also notice in simpsons rule the coefficients are symmetrical

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

Is c always 3 or is it just in this case?

OpenStudy (freckles):

just in the case of simpson's rule

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

can you explain that more? the part about this case being 3.

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\int\limits_a^b f(x) dx=\frac{\Delta x}{3}(y_0+4y_1+2y_2+4y_3+2y_4 + \cdots + 4y_{n-1}+y_n)\] and I know this because there is a 3 underneath the Delta x there this is simpson's rule by the way

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\frac{\Delta x}{3} =\frac{1}{3} \Delta x =\frac{1}{3} (\frac{b-a}{n})=\frac{b-a}{3n}\] you are given that they want n to be 4

OpenStudy (freckles):

3n=3(4)=12

OpenStudy (freckles):

do you understand where the 3 is coming from on bottom?

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\frac{\Delta x}{\color{red}{3}}\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

this factor is in simpson's rule

OpenStudy (freckles):

there is a 3 on bottom

OpenStudy (freckles):

Delta x is a fraction where it's denominator is n

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

oh I see. (I also opened a new question to work on. I tagged you. )

OpenStudy (freckles):

ok I will be back in a few minutes I need coffee it will be a few minutes

OpenStudy (thecalchater):

Alright thanks :)

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