Need some help
Suppose a car is moving clockwise along the circle 𝑥2 + (𝑦 − 1)2 = 1 and that a person is located at the point (0, −1). If the y-coordinate of the car is changing at the rate of −10 𝑚/𝑠 when the car is at (1, 1), find the rate at which the distance between the car and the person is changing at that time.
so what are you finding?
Not really sure i was thinking of doing implicit differentiation this has to do with a related rates problem. \[\frac{ d }{ dx }x^{2}+\frac{ d }{ dx }(y-1)^{2} = 1*(\frac{ d }{ dx })\] \[2x+ \frac{ dy }{ dx }(y^{2}-2y+1) = 2y - 2 = 0 \] \[2x+(2y-2)(\frac{ dy }{ dx }) = 0\] \[-2x = (2y-2)\frac{ dy }{ dx }\] \[\frac{ -2x }{ 2y-2 } = \frac{ -2x }{ 2(y-1) } = \frac{ dy }{ dx }\] \[\frac{ dy }{ dx } = \frac{ -x }{ (y-1) }\]
\[\frac{ dy }{ dt } = -10m/s, \frac{ dy }{ dx } = \frac{ -x }{ (y-1) }\] I'm assuming that we have to find dx/dt \[\frac{ dx }{ dt } = \frac{ \frac{ dy }{ dt }*dx~dt }{ \frac{ dy }{ dx }*dx~dt }\] \[\frac{ dx }{ dt } = \frac{ -10 }{ (\frac{ -x }{ y-1 }) } = \frac{ 10(y-1) }{ x }\] \[\frac{ dx }{ dt } = \frac{ 10(y-1) }{ x } |_{1,1} = ?\] something isn't right I got 0.
Don't know why this is wrong
my book is telling me to use the distance formula
yes the distance formula d = sqrt ( y2 - y1)^2 + (x2 - x1)^2 we need to substitute in that
i'm trying to figure this out. These type of problems are not my strong point I'm afraid.
That's what the answer said but i'm a little lost on that. \[d = \sqrt{(x_{2}-x_{1})^{2}+(y_{2}-y_{1})^{2}}\] so we would substitute this into the equation in the bottom? \[x^{2}+(y-1)^{2} = 1 \]
now would x1 and x2 be the point be 0 and -1 ( where the person is standing?
well I think the person would be at (0,-1) assuming that he is stationary and the car is at (1,1)
hmmm.. I#m confused to be honest
@welshfella like apparently what I did above to find dx/dt = 0 above is right. but it was only part of the problem.
The answer involved taking the derivative of the distance formula and then plugging everything in.. \[d/dt \sqrt{(x_{2}-x_{1})^{2}+(y_{2}-y_{1})^{2}}\]
I'll ask the prof.. about this...but thank you for helping. me
ok - well i wasn't much help!! I can do the easier related rate problems but this oen beats me at the moment.
i'm confused about this too.
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