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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

Little hand on this problem

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

So here where I'm \(a=\frac{eE}{m}\)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

I found the acceleration of the electron

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

I need the distance x just before it will strike the plate b

OpenStudy (nuttyliaczar):

Yeah what does closest approach mean? I never ran into a phrase like that before

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

I'm thinking of kinematic of course here x=v0t+a/2 t^2

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

that is just a weird wording that means the distance before it strikes the plate B

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

and we want that to be the closet one

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

@phi

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

what I'm not paying attention to here?

OpenStudy (nuttyliaczar):

I must be misunderstanding something here. Does the electron reach a peak proximity to plate B?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

we could find t when it strikes the plate B but that won;t be helpful

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

what do you mean by peak proximity? if you mean does it reach B yes it does

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

we can find velocity at B and time as well

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

distance we know 40 mm

OpenStudy (phi):

it reads like the electron is decelerating?

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

no it should accelerate due the electric field

OpenStudy (phi):

then the question does not make sense (to me)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

we put the electron and it start moving from v0=10^7 m/s

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

may be i'm understanding the problem the wrong way? I'm not sure

OpenStudy (phi):

if it accelerates into the plate, then 0 is the answer (it hits the plate) so I'm guessing the field works against the electron or makes it curve (though I'm probably thinking of a magnetic field in the latter case)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

the answer is 16 mm

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

so definitely it is not zero

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

zero is from where it starts

OpenStudy (nuttyliaczar):

I agree with Phi, that's also why I am not understanding

OpenStudy (nuttyliaczar):

Unless the electric field was a magnetic field, or if it caused the electron to decelerate, the electron will hit plate B. And that gives an answer of 0

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

even if it is a deceleration that does not solve the issue still

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

indeed looking back it is a deceleration

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

closest to b the kinetic energy=0

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

i think i got it

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

solution: At point C close to B v=0 v^2=v0^2-2ax x=v0^2/2a x=23.7 mm d=40-23.7=16.3 which is the desired answer thanks guys for your input

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

it was the about understanding the question after all as you said it is a deceleration

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

@phi thanks

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