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\[\left| x^2-4y^2+x+3y-1 \right|+(2x-y-1)^2=0\]
here is a website i think this is what your looking for but i dont know this stuff ...... https://www.math.ucdavis.edu/~kouba/CalcOneDIRECTORY/implicitdiffsoldirectory/
Do you need help solving or what?
who are you talking to? btw i dont wanna say it in a mean way
your fine! @wcrmelissa2001 what you need help with?
oh ok well ima go..
@NicoNeedsAlotOfHelp thanks anways! @Qwertty123 I'm not sure how to solve this question (and eyyy ur back!)
Everytime I expand it I end up with lot of terms and no idea how to simplify it: y^2, y, x, x^2, xy
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@phi
what techniques do you know to tackle this type of problem ?
Off the top of my head it would be graphs (not sure how that can be used), expansion??
both terms are either 0 or positive (assuming real numbers) the only way to get the sum of two positive numbers to be 0 is to require both to be zero.
yup
but once you remove the modulus sign, the first term can be negative too am i right?
yes. I'll have to think about this one.
thanks :D
graphing both terms (but ignoring the absolute value), we have this
to solve this analytically, we start by requiring 2x-y-1= 0 from which we get y= 2x -1 using that in the second term, we have \[ x^2 -4(2x-1)^2 + x +3(2x-1) -1 = 0\] if we expand that out we get \[ -15x^2 +23x -8=0 \\ 15x^2 -23x +8 =0\] the zeros occur at \[ x= \frac{23 \pm 7}{30} \]
we get x= 1 (and y = 2*1 -1 = 1) and x= 16/30 = 8/15 and the corresponding y= 1/15
wait sorry how would u graph it out? like what are the 2 equations
we require 2x-y-1=0 --> y= 2x-1 so the solution has to lie on that line
we also require x^2-4y^2 +x+3y-1 =0 that is a hyperbola, and the solution has to lie on it. so the solution has to lie on the intersection of the two curves.
because we insist on the term being zero, we can ignore the absolute value operator because | 0 | = 0
I get it :D Except for how to get the graph from x^2-4y^2 +x+3y-1 =0. You can't exactly key that in to a graphic calculator. And there is y^2 and y terms which is hard to make into equation of y
are you sure? It's a hyperbola. If your calculator does circles e..g. x^2+y^2=1 then it should do hyperbolas. Or use geogebra (free download) or wolfram
I'm not sure because I thnk my calculator can only do y= blah blah functions but oh well. Thank you anywawy! :D
you can "complete the square" on both the x and y terms and put the equation into a more standard form http://www.purplemath.com/modules/hyperbola.htm
ahhhh thanks :D
@wcrmelissa2001
thank you
i mean your welcome by the "thanks anyways"
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