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OpenStudy (mikaella.gabriella):

So I'm curious. I am a Jehovah's Witness so I believe that only 144,000 people will go to Heaven. Where as others believe no certain number of people will go as long as they are "saved" I'm not sure how are you "saved" is it just like "I got baptized im going to Heaven"?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes and that if you really do obey Gods Word

OpenStudy (kenljw):

I've always had a problem with a group as a council used to represent God the Father or Christ. This is done in all religions and is what the 144 represents, we have this system in our of Government where the Congress, Executive, and Judiciary are the council. I have a personal individual religion in respect to God the Father and Christ and it is not registered with the Government which seems to override registered religions consumed in the so called national God.

OpenStudy (kendricklamar2014):

@Mikaella.Gabriella how did you get 144,000 people will go to Heaven?

OpenStudy (mikaella.gabriella):

@JoannThomas I've heard that in some religions you can sin all you want as long as you go through what I think is confession, just apologize, I feel like there should be more to it than that?? Also I've heard people PAY! priests to pay for their forgiveness which I also think isn't smart.... @KenLJW Are you saying all people believe that only a certain amount of people go to Heaven? What about Limbo(I think thats what it's called) & Hell? @KendrickLamar2014 Well an article on JW.org put's it like this " Millions long for life in heaven. Jesus said that his faithful apostles would live there. Before he died, he promised to prepare a place for them with his heavenly Father. (John 14:2 Jesus told his apostles that they would be kings. They will rule over the earth. (((((Luke 22:28-30 says 28 “However, you are the ones who have stuck with me in my trials; 29 and I make a covenant with you, just as my Father has made a covenant with me, for a kingdom, 30 so that you may eat and drink at my table in my Kingdom, and sit on thrones to judge the 12 tribes of Israel.) In the house of my Father are many dwelling places. Otherwise, I would have told you, for I am going my way to prepare a place for you.) In most lands, only a few people are rulers. Since Jesus resurrects people to heavenly life so that they can rule over the earth, we would expect those chosen to be few. (Luke 12:32 says Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom. ) The Bible says exactly how many will rule with Jesus.—(Revelation 14:1 says Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.) Those going to heaven will not be the only ones rewarded. Faithful subjects of Jesus’ Kingdom will enjoy life without end in a restored paradise on earth. (John 3:16 says For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.)

rebeccaxhawaii (rebeccaxhawaii):

you have to know Him anyone can know of Him

OpenStudy (kenljw):

14:1 says Then I saw, and look! the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who have his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.) , We differ on this point as the KJB and Rheims have "a Lamb" not "the Lamb". Are you saying all people believe that only a certain amount of people go to Heaven? No, what I'm saying there may be different heavens with there council rule.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So you are saying that everyone else will go to hell?

OpenStudy (kenljw):

Many mansions, and their is a second death.

OpenStudy (kendricklamar2014):

@Mikaella.Gabriella Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God? Explain why or why not.

OpenStudy (mikaella.gabriella):

@KendrickLamar2014 I do believe that Jesus is God's son Regarding Jesus, the apostle Paul wrote: “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.” As God’s firstborn Son, Jesus was a spirit creature in heaven before he was born as a human on earth. Jesus, at John 6:38 says " for I have come down from heaven to do, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me." Many people take John 10:30-33 as Jesus saying he is god but then at John 14:28 he goes on to say the father is greater than him. Also Philippians 2:9 "For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name" So he can't be God, therefore JWs don't believe in the Trinity but we believe Jesus is God's son.

OpenStudy (kendricklamar2014):

You see we have a God who is Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. (This is hard to understand). \[1.\] They are not 3 gods, they are 1 God. Deuteronomy 4:35 says: You were shown these things so that you might know that the Lord is God; besides him there is no other. \[2.\] They are not 3 modes of the same person, they are 3 different people. Matthew 28:19 says: Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, In this case, one is baptized knowing that the salvation depends on the character of 1 God that consist of 3 different people. 1 Peter 1:2 says: who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. \[3.\] They are not 3 parts of God, each person es completely God. John 6:27 says: Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.” John 1:1 says: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. @Mikaella.Gabriella

OpenStudy (qwertty123):

The phrase being saved in the Christian tradition carries with it the obvious assumption that someone is in need of rescuing. It implies that one needs to be freed from imminent danger; that a life is imperiled; that dreams, hopes, and aspirations are all very near to being lost. Being saved in the Christian faith is really a two-part experience: being saved from something and being saved to something. To be saved means turning away from a life that is without God, that is focused solely upon ourselves. It means giving up the obsession with our needs, our wants, our pleasures, our comforts, our importance, our egos, and our power. If my world is nothing but me, then no one else, including God, is likely to get in. Being saved from also means being saved from destructive patterns of life -- things that destroy us instead of build us up. Some of those common destructive elements (which Christians call sin) are alcohol, drugs, sexual misuse and abuse, intolerance, lust for power, pursuit of money at the expense of others, and so forth. Involvement in such patterns usually comes from a need to fill a void in life, to cover a feeling of inadequacy. When God becomes a part of our life, we realize that a focus on self is not a full life. We understand that self-focus alone has no future and offers nothing to build up anyone else or to advance the great causes of humanity. But being saved from ourselves also means that we are saved to a life that is the exact opposite. Such a life says that the will of God and living this faith daily is a greater priority than our own will, that being the people of God is more important than anything, that giving and sharing are better than taking and accumulating. Our lives are changed by God to lives that affirm others, lives of healing and wholeness. Being saved means that we have awakened to the wondrous opportunities to share each day with our brothers and sisters and see what God is doing in our lives together. Most people who are rescued begin to evaluate their lives, take stock, and find ways to improve their lives; it is a wake-up call. We believe that being saved is, in essence, God's wake-up call to us. -- Peter Harrington 10 FAQ's of New Christians From 10 FAQ's of New Christians by Peter Harrington. Copyright © 2000 Discipleship Resources. Reprinted with permission of Discipleship Resources. @Mikaella.Gabriella

OpenStudy (kenljw):

The question comes down to what heaven is, Christ said heaven is here implying that one can be associated with heaven in life. Hence many mansions in that you might be associated with slightly different heaven or multiple ones. As for life after death, if there is such a thing, it seems to me you'll end up in one of the mansions you were associated with in life.

OpenStudy (dustin_whitelock):

I'm more of an atheist so it's fun 'cause I'm going neither to heaven nor hell, I'm gonna JUST die. LOL

OpenStudy (mikaella.gabriella):

Omg xD

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