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OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Linear algebra problem @ganeshie8

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

|dw:1457858566938:dw| a) Plugging in the values I get -20 for b) is this correct \[|<p(x),q(x)>| \le ||p(x)||~||q(x)||\] so I have \[|-20| \le \sqrt{(p(-1))^2+(p(0))^2+(p(1))^2} \sqrt{(q(-1))^2+(q(0))^2+(q(1))^2}\] it looks weird to me but if I keep going i get \[20 \le 7\sqrt{20}\]

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Then for c) I would do \[||p(x)+q(x)||\le ||p(x)||+||q(x)||\]

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

And then d) I think we do same thing as a sort of part a) but it has to equal 0 but I'm not exactly sure what \(P^2\) here is, was that meant to be \(P_2\)

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

\(||p(x)|| = \sqrt{20}\) \(||q(x)||=7\) Then for part c \[||p(x)+q(x)|| = \sqrt{(p(x)+q(x)) \cdot (p(x)+q(x))}\] oh wait is this just the square root of the inner product

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Squared then square rooted so 20

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Sort of like the length haha but rather it's a sum

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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OpenStudy (kainui):

You did part a completely right I checked. What you wrote for part b was correct too, although I didn't go through the computation, the form of it is correct. Part c also looks good, you are doing the right thing, I am just a bit hesitant to say you're doing it right because you've written the dot product so as long as you mean: \[(p(x)+q(x)) \cdot (p(x)+q(x)) = \langle (p(x)+q(x)),(p(x)+q(x))\rangle\] then you're good. for part d I think you're on the right track but unless you really have a strategy to make two polynomials orthogonal it won't exactly be easy, although you can probably guess one. I'll just give you a hint, you can take the projection of \(p(x)\) onto \(q(x)\) out of \(p(x)\) itself to make it orthogonal. In symbols, let's say: The projection of \(p(x)\) on \(q(x)\) is a multiple of \(q(x)\) so let's call the projection \(k*q(x)\), then when we take this inner product we expect it to be zero, since there's no longer anything in common: \[\langle p(x) - k*q(x) , q(x) \rangle = 0\] You can use the linearity of the inner product to get: \[\langle p(x), q(x) \rangle - k \langle q(x) , q(x) \rangle = 0\] But you've already calculated both of these inner products, so all you have to do is solve for k and then you have a set of two orthogonal polynomials \(q(x)\) and \([p(x)-k q(x)]\).

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Great thanks, I'll work on d in just a minute for part c would this be right because I'm sort of confusing the concept I think haha...so something like \[||p(x)+q(x)|| = \sqrt{[p(-1)+q(-1)]^2+[p(0)+q(0)]^2+[p(1)+q(1)]^2}\] if I got the components right

OpenStudy (kainui):

Yeah that is right

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Sweet xD

OpenStudy (kainui):

It might help next time you come to a problem like this to make some kind of subsitution, like \(f(x) = p(x)+q(x)\) and then calculate \(\langle f(x),f(x) \rangle\) that way and then you don't have to worry as much about mixnig stuff up. I make substiutions for large stuff I don't want to write all the time cause I'm lazy lol.

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yeah you're right, but first I usually like to do it the long way then I realize later I can make a sub xD, I will keep that in mind. Also for part d) I'm going to read up on some of this a bit more than do it, because I don't know the linear algebra theory well so yeah I need to read it lol

OpenStudy (kainui):

In pictures, what I am talking about in part D is this: |dw:1457895064501:dw|

OpenStudy (astrophysics):

Yeah I think I see it now, I'm just comparing what you said to the drawing haha

OpenStudy (kainui):

This is vector addition, and these are the components of the vector p(x), the proof is just add head to tail (seems kind of silly to write out, but I think it makes it clear that these are really vectors): \[kq(x) + [ p(x) - k q(x)] = p(x)\] |dw:1457895370415:dw|

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