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OpenStudy (kainui):

Rational number question

OpenStudy (kainui):

If I give you a rational number reduced to lowest terms, \[n=\frac{a}{b}\] and I don't tell you what a and b are, is it possible just using n alone to find an expression \(f(n)\) for \[f(n)=a+b\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Your notation suggests that \(f\) is a function. By definition of function, it must satisfy : \[p=q\implies f(p) = f(q)\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Easy to find a counterexample let p = 1/2, q = 2/4

OpenStudy (kainui):

I don't think that's fair since n is always known to be reduced to lowest terms

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Oh wait, then it requires some thinking...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then \[f(1/2) = f(2/4)\]

Miracrown (miracrown):

you should be able to use the first equation to solve for a and b in terms of n substitute those into the second equation' and then, if we're lucky there might be a way to get rid of a and b altogether so we have just an equations containing n

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if a is 1 and b is 3 then...

OpenStudy (kainui):

@Joshtray f(2/4) is invalid since \(n \ne \frac{2}{4}\) Maybe this helps, this is always true: \[\gcd(a,b)=1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but n can be 1/3

Miracrown (miracrown):

alright, I can see how you might get an expression for f(n) in terms of n, a, and b

Miracrown (miracrown):

but as far as getting rid of a and b, I'm not sure what they would be looking for there

OpenStudy (anonymous):

f(a/b) = a+b

Miracrown (miracrown):

you're going backwards to the direction you're supposed to go to m8 @Joshtray

Miracrown (miracrown):

if n = a/b, then a = bn, and b = a/n

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

are you inputting n in decimal form ?

Miracrown (miracrown):

so take the second equation, and replace a with bn, and replace b with a/n

Miracrown (miracrown):

n right now is an unknown rational number

Miracrown (miracrown):

so no, we're not using any decimals at this point @ganeshie8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is bn + a/n

Miracrown (miracrown):

just trying to get an expression for f(n) that includes n

Miracrown (miracrown):

and yes correct @Joshtray

Miracrown (miracrown):

and then you could combine that into one rational expression

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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