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OpenStudy (anonymous):

How the heck do I do this induction proof?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

should I prove n=0 as the base case?

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

\[\mathbb{Z}^+ \] are the integers starting with 1. So you need to use n=1 as your base case. Another reason why you should use n=1 as your base case is because the summation starts from i=1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@surjithayer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

correct you should start for i=1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then assume for i=k then prove for i=k+1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so for the base case 1 <= 1, therefore it holds?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k has to be a positive integer?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Bobo-i-bo Do you know how i'm supposed to write out the inductive step?

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

So what is the hypothesis? Do you understand what i mean by my question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

your question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for the hypothesis we assume i=k

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and say that it should be equal to i=k+1 for the equation, but how do we plug in the k for the summation part?

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

Okay. So the hypothesis/assumption is that when i is equal to some number k, then \[sum_{i=1}^{k}\frac{1}{i^2} \le 2-\frac{1}{k}\] So we have to try and prove that if that is true for when i equal to that number k, then when i=k+1, the formula also holds, ie. that \[sum_{i=1}^{k}\frac{1}{i^2} ]le 2-\frac{1}{k}\]

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

does that make sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

umm not really

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the second part, is confusing

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

sorry the latex didn't come out right, they were meant to say this: \[\sum_{i=1}^{k}\frac{1}{i^2} \le 2-\frac{1}{k}\] and \[\sum_{i=1}^{k+1}\frac{1}{i^2} \le 2-\frac{1}{k+1}\]

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

Is that better? :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, yeah that makes more sense

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

The induction step is the idea that we do 2 things 1) Make an assumption that the formula holds true for any general case. We call this case k since we don't want to say something like "case 3". So in this part, we're assuming the formula holds true when n = k 2) after the step done above, we need to prove that the formula holds true when n = k+1. If we can show this, then it effectively shows that for any value of n, the next value of n works too. Imagine a row of dominoes. One knocks down the other one at a time. This is what the inductive step is in a sense

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So we have the assumption, just need to prove that the formula holds now?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes and you'll use the assumption to help prove the n=k+1 case

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hint: \[\Large \sum_{i = 1}^{k+1}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right]=\sum_{i = 1}^{k}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right]+\frac{1}{(k+1)^2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So is that just algebra?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes more or less

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Also, this fact may help If `a < b` then `b = a+m` where m is some real number such that `m > 0`

OpenStudy (anonymous):

umm okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't understand your first hint however

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I broke up the summation pulling out the expression \[\Large \sum_{i = 1}^{k}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right]\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

this is to be able to use the assumption (the n=k case)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and the second part is the assumption?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the 1/(k+1)^2 part?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

no, the assumption sums from `i = 1` to `i = k` (since we stop when n = k)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the extra `1/(k+1)^2` added on is the n = k+1 case that we need to prove

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh alright

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now we have to prove both sides are equal?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

let's start with the assumption (n = k case) if we say \[\Large \sum_{i = 1}^{k}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right] \le 2 - \frac{1}{k}\] then that is the same as saying \[\Large \sum_{i = 1}^{k}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right]+m = 2 - \frac{1}{k}\] where m is some positive real number Agreed? or no?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because of this: iIf a < b then b = a+m where m is some real number such that m > 0

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok let's isolate the summation by subtracting m from both sides \[\Large \sum_{i = 1}^{k}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right]+m = 2 - \frac{1}{k}\] \[\Large \sum_{i = 1}^{k}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right] = 2 - \frac{1}{k}-m\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

This will be used later on. Let's now focus on the n=k+1 case We need to prove the following \[\Large \sum_{i = 1}^{k+1}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right] \le 2 - \frac{1}{k+1}\] and we'll use the assumption to do this

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

with me so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok let's break up the summation on the left side \[\Large \sum_{i = 1}^{k+1}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right] \le 2 - \frac{1}{k+1}\] \[\Large \sum_{i = 1}^{k}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right]+\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \le 2 - \frac{1}{k+1}\] and we'll make a subsitution using the previous summation we solved for \[\Large \sum_{i = 1}^{k}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right]+\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \le 2 - \frac{1}{k+1}\] \[\Large {\color{red}{\sum_{i = 1}^{k}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right]}}+\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \le 2 - \frac{1}{k+1}\] \[\Large {\color{red}{2 - \frac{1}{k}-m}}+\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \le 2 - \frac{1}{k+1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry 1/(k+1)^2 added to the summation to break it up is because we're doing the k+1 case right?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so what we have now has to somehow prove to be equal?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I'm thinking of how to do the next step. One moment

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well I guess we can subtract 2 from both sides \[\Large {\color{black}{2 - \frac{1}{k}-m}}+\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \le 2 - \frac{1}{k+1}\] \[\Large {\color{black}{2 - \frac{1}{k}-m}}+\frac{1}{(k+1)^2}{\color{blue}{-2}} \le 2 - \frac{1}{k+1}{\color{blue}{-2}}\] \[\Large {\color{black}{- \frac{1}{k}-m}}+\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \le - \frac{1}{k+1}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Then we can multiply both sides by -1. So to make the right side positive \[\Large {\color{black}{- \frac{1}{k}-m}}+\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \le - \frac{1}{k+1}\] \[\Large -1*\left({\color{black}{- \frac{1}{k}-m}}+\frac{1}{(k+1)^2}\right) \le -1*\left(- \frac{1}{k+1}\right)\] \[\Large \frac{1}{k}+m-\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \ge \frac{1}{k+1}\] side note: the inequality sign flips

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Notice how 1/k gets smaller as k gets larger (1/2 ---> 1/3 ---> 1/4 etc) The general rule is this 1/k > 1/(k+1) for any positive number k Since `1/k > 1/(k+1)` we can say `1/k = 1/(k+1)+p` where p is some positive real number

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so let's do that substitution and simplify a bit \[\Large \frac{1}{k}+m-\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \ge \frac{1}{k+1}\] \[\Large {\color{red}{\frac{1}{k}}}+m-\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \ge \frac{1}{k+1}\] \[\Large {\color{red}{\frac{1}{k+1}+p}}+m-\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \ge \frac{1}{k+1}\] \[\Large \frac{1}{k+1}+p+m-\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \ge \frac{1}{k+1}\] \[\Large p+m-\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \ge 0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sp p and m are both reals > 0?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hmm still thinking on how to wrap it all up though

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes m > 0 p > 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So do you need both?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I guess you could say q = p+m then replace `p+m` with `q` that would mean q > 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a lot of variables being thrown in

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

let me see if there's another way to do this without adding in those extra variables

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alrighty

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok do you agree that \[\Large \sum_{i = 1}^{k}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right] = \frac{1}{1^2}+\frac{1}{2^2}+\ldots+\frac{1}{k^2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How come?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the summation is shorthand for saying "sum these terms up" so instead of saying `1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8` we can say \[\Large \sum_{i=1}^{8}i\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh okay I get it

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so saying \[\Large \sum_{i = 1}^{k}\left[\frac{1}{i^2}\right] \le 2 - \frac{1}{k}\] is the same as saying \[\Large \frac{1}{1^2}+\frac{1}{2^2}+\ldots+\frac{1}{k^2} \le 2 - \frac{1}{k}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

agreed? or no?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but how does that help?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Sorry one second, it's taking a bit longer for me to format it

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok so I messed up and it's taking way to long to write out, esp with LaTex. I found this video here and it pretty much goes through it step by step. So to avoid re-inventing the wheel, so to speak, it's probably better to watch it and follow that method https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2tkLx019QI

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay i'll check it out :)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the inductive step starts at about 1:57 roughly, so you can skip to that part (since we already have the base case nailed down)

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

If you follow from my previous comment, then we must prove that it works for i=k+1 from the assumption that i=k. Now let us just consider: \[\sum_{i=1}^{k+1}\frac{ 1 }{ i^2 }\]

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

By defintion of the summation thing: \[\sum_{i=1}^{k+1}\frac{ 1 }{ i^2 }=\frac{ 1 }{ 1^2 }+\frac{ 1 }{ 2^2 }+...+\frac{ 1 }{ k^2 }+\frac{ 1 }{ (k+1)^2 }=\sum_{i=1}^{k}\frac{ 1 }{ i^2 }+\frac{ 1 }{ (k+1)^2 }\]

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

Following me? Do you understand what we're trying to do currently? Can you see what to do next?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well we have to do the proof now

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

We are trying to prove that \[\sum_{i=1}^{k+1} \leq 2-\frac{ 1 }{ k+1 }\] But we are given that \[\sum_{i=1}^{k}\frac{ 1 }{ i^2 } \leq 2-\frac{ 1 }{ k }\] and i have given you the thing above. Does that help? :)

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

oops first inequality should be \[\sum_{i=1}^{k+1}\frac{ 1 }{ i^2 } \leq 2-\frac{ 1 }{ k+1 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry kinda lost on what to do next

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

That's okay ^_^ Do you understand the concept of principle of induction?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Umm yeah i'm pretty sure i get it, i'm just thinking that the right side of the inequality should be that same as \[2-\frac{ 1 }{ k }+ \frac{ 1 }{ (k+1)^2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because of the definition of summation thingy

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

Yup :D

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

give me a sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but we want to have it look like \[2 - \frac{ 1 }{ k+1 }\] on the right side

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay sure

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

yup!

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

Sooo, wouldnt it be nice that perhaps \[2 - \frac{ 1 }{ k } +\frac{ 1 }{ (k+1)^2 } \leq 2 - \frac{ 1 }{ k+1 }\] when \[k \geq 1\] Why not try and see if it's true/see if you can prove it. ;) ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okie ill try, we just have to try simplifying the left side of the inequality right??

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

Hmm, you need to try and simplify the whole inequality to a point where you can infer for what values of k, the inequality holds

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Umm okay, so how should I start?

OpenStudy (bobo-i-bo):

Okay to start you off, you can minus 2 from both sides, then you can multiply both sides of the inequality by minus 1 (and remember to switch the sign of the inequality)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so we get this? \[\frac{1}{k}+m-\frac{1}{(k+1)^2} \ge \frac{1}{k+1} \]

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