Someone help find the integral of y/e^2y from 0 to 1
@Luigi0210
@zepdrix
@agent0smith
@jim_thompson5910
have you tried integration by parts?
I'm not good at it :(
Do you agree that \[\LARGE \frac{y}{e^{2y}} = y*e^{-2y}\] ??
Yes
Y would be e^2y would be easier to integrate
I wanted to get it into u*dv form
So u is y? Right
it might be easier to make u = e^(-2y) and dv = y I'm not 100% sure which path is easier
Oh okay :)
let's try it out though u = e^(-2y) du = -2e^(-2y)dy dv = y v = (1/2)*y^2 agree with everything so far?
Yes
Uv-integral vdu
this you mean? \[\LARGE \int u*dv = u*v - \int v*du\]
Correct
So we have \[\large \int u*dv = u*v - \int v*du\] \[\large \int e^{-2y}*y = e^{-2y}*\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)*y^2 - \int \left(\frac{1}{2}\right)*y^2*(-2e^{-2y})dy\]
hmm the problem looks like it's getting more complicated, let me try another way
Okay
Take your time I got a lot of time
You were right in making u = y. That's much simpler u = y du = dy dv = e^(-2y)dy v = (-1/2)*e^(-2y) \[\Large \int u*dv = u*v - \int v*du\] \[\Large \int y*e^{-2y}dy = y*\left(-\frac{1}{2}*e^{-2y}\right) - \int \frac{-1}{2}*e^{-2y}dy\] \[\Large \int y*e^{-2y}dy = -\frac{1}{2}*y*e^{-2y} + \frac{1}{2}\int e^{-2y}dy\] Do you see how to finish up?
Is it -y2(e^-2y)-1/4e^-2y?
-y/2
I think you mean this right? \[\Large -\frac{y}{2}e^{-2y}-\frac{1}{4}e^{-2y}+C\]
Yeah except it's a definite integral
ok so you'll let \[\Large g(y) = -\frac{y}{2}e^{-2y}-\frac{1}{4}e^{-2y}+C\]
then you'll compute the value of `g(1) - g(0)`
the constant C will cancel when computing `g(1) - g(0)`
Here give me a few minutes and I'll let you know what I get :)
Okay -3/4e^-2-1/4?
Yes the answer is \[\Large \frac{1}{4}-\frac{3}{4}e^{-2}\]
I'm getting +1/4 not -1/4
Hmmmm
plug in y = 0 \[\Large g(y) = -\frac{y}{2}e^{-2y}-\frac{1}{4}e^{-2y}+C\] \[\Large g(0) = -\frac{0}{2}e^{-2*0}-\frac{1}{4}e^{-2*0}+C\] \[\Large g(0) = -\frac{1}{4}+C\] plug in y = 1 \[\Large g(y) = -\frac{y}{2}e^{-2y}-\frac{1}{4}e^{-2y}+C\] \[\Large g(1) = -\frac{1}{2}e^{-2*1}-\frac{1}{4}e^{-2*1}+C\] \[\Large g(1) = -\frac{1}{2}e^{-2}-\frac{1}{4}e^{-2}+C\] now subtract \[\Large g(1) - g(0) = \left(-\frac{1}{2}e^{-2}-\frac{1}{4}e^{-2}+C\right) - \left(-\frac{1}{4}+C\right)\] \[\Large g(1) - g(0) = -\frac{1}{2}e^{-2}-\frac{1}{4}e^{-2}+C +\frac{1}{4}-C\] \[\Large g(1) - g(0) = -\frac{3}{4}e^{-2}+\frac{1}{4}\] \[\Large g(1) - g(0) = \frac{1}{4}-\frac{3}{4}e^{-2}\]
you might have forgotten about a negative somewhere
Oh yeah it's minus a negative oops!
other than that mistake, you did good
Thank you, and thank you for the help :)
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