1 Calculus.
I see that in every case, we increment x by 2. We begin drawing the slope field at or near which point?
the answer to that question is right in the problem statement, altho perhaps not in the form you're used to when you describe a point in the plane.
We would put it near 2 right? Not sure about how the answer is right in the problem statement can you explain and break it down? Then I can solve?
All four of the answer choices have the same initial values for x and y. Can you spot these values? x=? y=?
Yeah so when x and y=0 we have n=6 and so on
Please take another look at the first two columns of the first possible answer. Which x and which y values are given there? n is nthing but a counter, like counting on your fingers.
my bad i put the wrong thing when n and x=0 y=6
Right. So, if you were to graph this slope field, your starting point would definitely be (0,6). x=0 and y = 6. You don't have to do so, but actually graphing this might make the picture clearer for you. Should we move on, or do you want to graph this first point?
Ok I graphed it. Should I graph the rest of the points? If so how do i figure which is right? like will my points from a specific graph make a straight slope line?
You are given a formula to be used in calculating the slope at any point (x,y). What is that formula?
Are you looking at what is in the question or slope point form?
it's either y=mx+b or y'=-2x-4y
Yes, it's the d. e. Remember that (dy/dx) = slope = y' = m in this particular problem. Remember that you are starting at (0,6), and that you are to increase x by 2. Your job right now is to determine by how much y increases. Note: (increase in y) = (slope of tangent line at (0,6) * (change or increase in x). What is the slope of the tangent line to the curve at (0,6)?
I still need your answer for that. Note, however, that I've made a mistake; your increments in x are 0.2, not 2.0. But that doesn't affect anything (yet).
At the starting point, (0,6), x=0 and y=6. The slope of the tangent line to the curve y at that point is given by dy/dx = -2x - 4y. Evaluate that slope at (0,6), please.
How exactly do I do that? (0,6) isn't on the curve...
Actually, (0,6) MUST be on your graph, and your curve will go through that point.
Again, x=0 and y=6. The slope is dy/dx = -2x -4y. Evaluate the slope for x=0 and y=6.
Let x=0 in the slope formula.
ohhh i think I see I got -24
plugging in x=0 adn y=6 to the original equation. Now I'll plug in for point slope form.
y=m0+6?
That is the slope. Becasuse the slope is negative, the curve y is decreasing at (0,6). The change in y, from the current y=6, is (slope of TL)(increment in x). Can you figure that out? Use any method you like. However, your "m0" is not correct. Calculate the slope first (you already have) and then multi. it by the change in x. Show your work, pls.
so slope is -24 and we are looking to find x=.2 and solve for y?
Hold on to that y=6 (initial value of the function). Calculate the change in y from the formula I gave you above: (slope of TL) * (increment in x).
so dy/dx=-2(x)-4(6)? Are we using slope point or the function we were given?????
remember that x=0. Your calculated slope must reflect that: slope of tl to graph at (0,6) = (slope of tl at (0,6) times (increment in x = 0.2 ) The slope is -2(0) - 4(6) = -24; the increment in x is 0.2. By how much does y change from its initial value, 6?
We can rule out A and D because the y value is increasing and we have a negative slope.
right I understand that, but what equation do we use for it?
calchater, I'd appreciate your answering my questions rather than jumpting ahead to select an answer. I promise to answer your questions at a suitable time.
I know you want me to find the rate of change for y.... I am asking what equation to use... As far as the ruling out... I was just eliminating the choices to narrow the answer.
The initial value of y is 6; as we move from x= 0 to x=0.2, y decreases by (how much?) to (what value ?)
so plug x=.2 into what equation the one we are given????? to find the change in y?
So -2(.2)-4y=what?
You found that the slope at (0,6) is -24. Your increment is 0.2. Therefore, y changes by -24(0.2) = - 4.8. Notice how I subst. x=0 and y = 6?
The new y-value, at x=0.2, is therefore 6 - 4.8 = ??
1.2 So we are using the slope to approximate rate of change?
Yes, indeed we are! Now, to answer your question: Here is one (of several forms) of the equation we're using to approximate y = f(x):\[y=f(x)=f(x _{0})+f '(x _{o})(x-x _{0})\]
so 6+6(x-0) plugging in?
Now let's quickly illustrate how this works. Your initial y value is 6. that's your f(x_0). Your slope is -24. That's your f '(x_0). Your x - x_0 is 0.2 - 0 = 0.2. Hope this makes sense.
ok so then 6+-24*.2 or to simplify 1.2
"so 6+6(x-0) plugging in?" The initial 6 is fine. That's your starting y value. That +6 is not correct; the slope is -24, as we found earlier. (x-0) is fine because the starting value of x was 0. Try to reconcile what you've done with what I've done.
any questions?
Not so far (I corrected that -24 above) so then y should be 1.2 for the second column leaving us with d?
and if we needed to continue when x=.4 y=.16?
You have four answer choices; your criteria for selection of the correct one has to be whether the choice matches your actual calculations or not. The first point is (0,6). The second is (0.2, 1.2) First, do you agree? Secondly, does any of the answer choices reflect these calculations?
I agree and My choice was D.
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