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OpenStudy (anonymous):

calc help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

are you able to graph the equations to see what this region looks like?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, i graphed it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the region we want to find is the red region

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is there an equation to do that?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

first we need to solve the given equation for x get it in terms of y. We're doing this because it says to integrate with respect to y

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x=4siny?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

x = 4*sin(y) yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

now think of x and y swapping places. That's effectively what happens when you do the inverse

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if you graph x = 4*sin(y) like you would y = 4*sin(x), you get this see attached

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the region we want to find is this purple region

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it turned on its side?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes, basically the x axis turned into the y axis and vice versa

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

or as you put it, it reflected

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now what?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

where does the region start and stop? in terms of y

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0 and 4

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

imagine the y axis is now laying horizontally

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it would look the same as the original graph?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0 and 1.5(ish)?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what do you get when you solve 4 = 4*sin(x) for x ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you divide by 4 first?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes, so sin(x) = 1 which means x = ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1.57

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

which is exactly pi/2 sin(pi/2) = 1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so we're integrating from y = 0 to y = pi/2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

let g(y) = 4 h(y) = 4*sin(y) you want to find the value of \[\Large \int_{0}^{\pi/2}\left[g(y)-h(y)\right]dy\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so take the antiderivative then plug in 0 and pi/2, integrating

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

this will subtract out the green region that we don't want (Leaving just the purple region we do want)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

`so take the antiderivative then plug in 0 and pi/2, integrating` correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got 2.283

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

let g(y) = 4 h(y) = 4*sin(y) A = area of region we want \[\Large A = \int_{0}^{\pi/2}\left[g(y)-h(y)\right]dy\] \[\Large A = \int_{0}^{\pi/2}\left[4-4\sin(y)\right]dy\] \[\Large A = 4x + 4\cos(y)\Bigg]_{0}^{\pi/2}\] \[\Large A = \left(4\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right) + 4\cos\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right)\right)-\left(4\left(0\right) + 4\cos\left(0\right)\right)\] \[\Large A = \left(2\pi + 4(0)\right)-\left(4\left(0\right) + 4(1)\right)\] \[\Large A = 2\pi-4 \ \ {\color{blue}{\text{See note1}}}\] \[\Large A \approx 2.28318530717959 \ \ {\color{blue}{\text{See note2}}}\] Note1: this is the exact answer in terms of pi Note2: this is the approximate answer. Round however you need to

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

`i got 2.283` you got the correct approximate answer @helpppppppppp

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yay, tysm

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're welcome

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