What is the remainder when 2^33 is divided by 17?
maybe first find 2^33
really? you think i should do that tedious work? it can't be that straight..
what else have you tried ?
i know .. its more like some theorem
aren't you too young to be familiar with modular arithmetic and/or binomial theorem?
@parth I dunno it is from my textbook:(
so then you're not familiar with any of those?
@ganeshie8 I tried the cyclicity but that doesn't give any clue at all..... @ParthKohli What ya mean?
binomial theorem modular arithmetic do you know any of these? and yes, the cyclic nature of remainders should give a nice hint
thats not a bad attempt! familiar with below property ? If \(a\) leaves a remainder \(r\) when divided by \(b\), then \(a^k\) leaves a remainder \(r^k\) when divided by \(b\)
for example : \(5\) leaves a remainder \(1\) when divided by \(4\), therefore \(5^3\) leaves a remainder \(1^3\) when divided by \(4\)
you might need something like binomial theorem to prove above property
@ParthKohli I am not familiar with any of those:( and @ganeshie8 I dunno that property but yeah..that gives some insight...
u shuold study negative remainders then this questions will be easy
negative remainders? okay @ganeshie8 so if 2 leaves a remainder 15 when divided by 17,therefore 2^33 leaves a remainder 15^33 when divided by 17???:/
@ParthKohli what hint from cyclicity please?
observe that \(2^4\) leaves a remainder \(-1\) when divided by 17. or better, \(2^8\) leaves a remainder \(1\) when divided by 17. whenever you get a remainder of 1, the remainders begin to repeat themselves.
@ParthKohli 'whenever you get a remainder of 1, the remainders begin to repeat themselves.' What does this mean?I dun understand:(
a simpler example would be this: remainders of powers of 2 when divided by 5. 2^1: 2 2^2: 4 2^3: 3 2^4: 1 2^5: 2 2^6: 4 2^7: 3 2^8: 1 do you see how it's going like 2, 4, 3, 1, 2, 4, 3, 1...? and the last number of every cycle is always 1.
\(\large \color{black}{\begin{align} &\dfrac{2^{33}}{17}\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ &\implies \dfrac{2^{33}}{17}\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ &\implies \dfrac{2\cdot 2^{32}}{17}\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ &\implies \dfrac{2\cdot 4^{16}}{17}\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ &\implies \dfrac{2\cdot 16^{8}}{17}\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ &\implies \dfrac{2\cdot (-1)^{8}}{17}\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ &\implies \dfrac{2\cdot 1}{17}\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ &\implies 2\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ \end{align}}\)
2^33 can be written as 2(16)^8 and that can be simplified as 2(17-1)^8 now apply binomial u wil get it..
Well @mathmath I dun understand the last step..the one where you replaces 16^8 with (-1)^8 since I dun know what ever method you have applied there.I used the clue given by @ParthKohli in order to procure the answer and got 2 that is the same as yours..but my textbook says 15 which is really weird since 2 seems correct....
@samigupta8 I am not familiar with the binomial theorem...but thanks for lending a hand here:)
if (a-1) is divided by a where a>1 and is a natural numberthen remainder can be written as -1
Ok..no problem..well the most apt way is then as given by parth so u should follow the multiplicity part only..and 2 is right ans ..
Okay...so I got it!Maybe it is a misprint in my textbook Thanks everyone:) and @ParthKohli thanks for the simple example..made it much easier to understand:)
I think Fermat's little theorem is good for this problem
@mayankdevnani honestly?I couldn't make head or tail of that theorem.. Anyways,thanks for lending a hand here
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hmm..okay warning-and if i don't understand ,dun get annoyed..m hard at grasping
pehle wikipedia pr doosra formula pado
dekho...wo statement samjh me aa gaya..but i dun understand that mod and all
mod aise hi cheez hain...faltu ki
LOL then wut is the significance of that?
baad main pata chal jayega
ab dekho, p=17 lo kyunki mod ke peeche jo bhi cheez aayegi woh divisior hogs
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if she knew modular arithmetic, then she wouldn't need to know fermat's little theorem...
there are 3 methods :- 1)Binomial Theorem 2)Cyclicity 3) Fermat's little theorem
she doesn't know 1st. She knows 2nd and i teach her 3rd
ek baar solve kariyo using FLT?
haan kyun nahi
let p=17 apply prime no divisibility method, \[\large \bf 2^{17-1}=1 \mod 17\] \[\large \bf 2^{16}=1 \mod 17\] since 32 is perfectly divisible by 32, so \[\large \bf 2^{32}=1 \mod 17\] multiply both sides by 2, \[\large \bf 2^{33}=2 \mod 17\] Hence, 2 is remainder
typo correction:- since 32 is perfectly divisible by 16
you applied many more properties of modular arithmetic. i think if we just teach her those properties of modular arithmetic, then it'd be easier to solve. FLT is just an added burden.\[2^{33} \equiv 2\cdot(2^4)^8 \equiv 2\cdot(-1)^8 \equiv 2 \pmod{17}\]
cyclicity is best for her level now
aur kya -_-
-_- wow
vijeya try these 2^31 is divided by 17
@mathmath333 9?
how u get there
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