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OpenStudy (anonymous):

PLEASE HELP INFINITE GEOMETRIC SERIES WILL GIVE MEDAL FAN

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Hero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@rebeccaxhawaii

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

Were you able to find the first four terms?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't know how

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

n=1 is your index, so that's where you start what is the sum when plug in n=1 for n?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

um

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'm not sure

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

what is (1/3) to power of 1?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1/3?

OpenStudy (daniel.ohearn1):

yeah, times -4 and then -1? Order of operations right? PEMDAS are you familiar?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Where do you get -1?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Directrix can you help me?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got the terms 1, -1.333, -0.444444, -0.148

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are those wrong?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@phi @Directrix

OpenStudy (phi):

Are you working on writing the first 4 terms?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but it says n=1 so the first term is 1 right?

OpenStudy (phi):

\[ \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} -4\left(\frac{ 1 }{ 3 }\right)^{n-1} \] the first term is when n=1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ooh,

OpenStudy (phi):

that means in the formula, you erase the "n" and put in 1 instead

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the first term is -4(?)

OpenStudy (phi):

\[-4\left(\frac{ 1 }{ 3 }\right)^{1-1} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, so then we get -4(1)

OpenStudy (phi):

I assume you know 1-1 is 0 so it is \[ -4\left(\frac{ 1 }{ 3 }\right)^0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok,

OpenStudy (phi):

anything to the "zero power" is 1, so the (⅓)^0 turns into 1 and -4*1 is -4 so -4 is the first term

OpenStudy (anonymous):

could you check my other 3?

OpenStudy (phi):

the next term will by -4 * (⅓)^1 which is -4 * ⅓ or -4/3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got 2nd term: -1.3333333 3rd:-0.4444444 4th: -0.148

OpenStudy (phi):

I would leave them fractions (unless they expect decimals .. which I doubt)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ooh

OpenStudy (phi):

each term is ⅓ times the previous one so you would have -4 , -4/3 , -4/9 , -4/27

OpenStudy (anonymous):

THANK YOU!!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you help me with b and c now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think that c is it has no sum since its infinite

OpenStudy (phi):

the "bottom" is getting bigger and bigger. at some point for very large n the bottom is huge and when you divide by a big number e.s. 1/1000000 the answer is a tiny number. in other words, the terms are "approaching zero" and the series is converging

OpenStudy (phi):

You and the Greeks thought that an infinite number of things diverged. But it turns out they can sum to less than a fixed value.

OpenStudy (phi):

not all the time, but in this case we can find a value that the sum "approaches" in the limit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So the answer to b is that the converge(?)

OpenStudy (phi):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

does it have a sum?

OpenStudy (phi):

\[ \sum_{n=1}^\infty r^n = \frac{1}{1-r} \] if r is less than 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so what's the sum?

OpenStudy (phi):

your problem is \[ -4 \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \left(\frac{ 1 }{ 3 }\right)^{n} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's what I write for the sum in c?

OpenStudy (phi):

no. the value of that infinite sum is 1/(1-r) where r is ⅓ in this case then multiply by -4 to get the final answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry, I don't understand

OpenStudy (phi):

There is a way to prove the series adds up to a number (in the limit) the formula says the sum of \[ \sum_{n=0}^{\infty}r^{n} = \frac{1}{1-r} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the sum is -6?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just did -4(1/1-1/3)

OpenStudy (phi):

yes the sum (⅓)^n from n=0 to infinity is 1/(1-⅓) = 1/2/3 = 3/2 and -4 * 3/2 = -6

OpenStudy (phi):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you think you could help me with another one?

OpenStudy (phi):

btw, it might not have noticed, I changed the (n-1) exponent in your problem to n and to compensate, I changed the starting n from n=1 to n=0 we get the same series, but now we can use the formula I posted , that goes from n=0 to infinity

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@phi but are the answers still correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you help me with another one?

OpenStudy (phi):

yes, the answer is -6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

could u help w/ antoher 1

OpenStudy (phi):

you should make a new post

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