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ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

http://prntscr.com/atkxbl

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

im confused

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you see any common factors in \(6x+8\)? hint, both coefficients are even

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes "factor it out" as the math teachers say

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

i don't have a teacher that i communicate with .-. online school

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

how do i factor it out tho @Kainui

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lucky you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just change \(6x+8\) in to \(2(3x+4)\)

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

oh yeah

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

wait where did u even get 6x+8 tho

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

dividing the things by 6?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i didn't get it it was written in your question

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

the only part where i see that is in line 4

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

we are trying to see if she factored http://prntscr.com/atkzis correctly right

OpenStudy (kainui):

All of the steps are written out in the picture, so here's a strategy to help you figure it out: Look at step 1 and step 2. What stayed the same? What changed? The steps are reversible, can you go from step 2 to step 1? Can you go from step 1 to step 2? If you can do one of these directions you will be able to figure out how to do the reverse.

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

ok hold on lemme look at that

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

wait why did 76 split into 36 and 40 tho

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

i was never taught this

OpenStudy (kainui):

Replace "x" with "apples" just for your own mental satisfaction, it really doesn't change anything. Then you have 76x turning into 36x + 40x. So are 76 apples the same as 36 apples + 40 apples??

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

well yes

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

depends on what kind of apples tho

OpenStudy (kainui):

There are no apples, so it doesn't matter. You're counting number of x's not number of apples.

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

ok so no apples, I can see which steps are being taken to factor it

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

but idk if its correct or not

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

i know the second half is right

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

6x(5x + 6) directly contradicts 8(5x +6) because it is 30x^2 and the second part is just 40x

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

right? @Kainui

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

sorry if i don't know simple stuff I'm only in 9th xD

OpenStudy (kainui):

My computer died I forgot to plug it in haha. So I was just gonna say don't get confused about the notation, \(5x\) means you have literally added 5 of the xs together, that's why this is equal: \[5x=x+x+x+x+x\] Same exact thing, so I just want to make that clear, the 5x is like shorthand for writing out all 5 xs at once haha. I sure wouldn't want to write out 30x. Ok moving on, I'm not sure what you are saying about contradicts, so tell me what steps you're looking at specifically, are you looking at the step from Line 2 to Line 3 or from Line 3 to Line 4?

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

well we could copy n paste x + ok getting off topic, but I'm saying from line 2 to 3

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

since if 30x^2 + 36x would factor into 6x(5x + 6)

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

then it can't possibly be 40x + 48 factoring into 8(5x +6)

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

because the first one is squared

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

@Kainui

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Looks you trying to match first half and second half. Why do you think they must be equal ? Only things that stand on either side of equality need to be equal. First half and second half in any expression need not be equal...

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

well i was just saying that the method of factoring should probably be different if its a different kind of number

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

but I'm no expert in math so can u teach me xD

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Btw, there is a step missing between the lines 2 and 3. They skipped the grouping step and I think this is the reason his solution is confusing...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Did you get how line2 follows from the line1 ?

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

yes, the 76x got cut into 2 unequal pieces

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Nice. He took line2 and grouped first two terms and last two terms before factoring out the GCF in each group : line2 : 30x^2 + 36x + 40x + 48 line2a : (30x^2 + 36x) + (40x + 48)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

whats the GCF of the terms in first group ?

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

yeah the GFC

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

GCF*

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

its 6 right

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

6 is common from numbers what about x's ? looks you can pull out an x too

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

2x?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Not quite. look at the expression 30x^2 + 36x ``` 30 and 36 have 6 in common x^2 and x have x in common ``` so we can rewrite it as 6x*5x + 6x*6 pull out the common 6x and get 6x(5x + 6)

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

yes yes

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

i still don't know if she did it correctly or not xD

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

just to double check, multiply it and see if you get back the stuff you have started with

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

6x(5x + 6) = ?

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

30x^2+36 right @ganeshie8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

that is same as the first group, so we're good. Look at second group next

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

OHHHH I SEE IT NOW DUDE

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

(30x^2 + 36x) + `(40x + 48)`

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

40x + 48 whats the GCF of these two terms ?

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

the first part had 2 x's and the second part only has 5x, UR A GENIUS

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

its 8

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

its factored correctly right

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

that part

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yea so the second group factors as 8(5x+6)

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

yes it does

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

line2 : 30x^2 + 36x + 40x + 48 line2a : (30x^2 + 36x) + (40x + 48) line3 : 6x(5x + 6) + 8(5x + 6)

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

im not sure about line 4

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Look at line3 now see anything common between the two groups ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

6x(5x + 6) and 8(5x + 6) take a good look, see anything common ?

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

5x+6

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes pull that out, what do you get ?

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

6x +8?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

pulling that out doesn't mean you throw that in garbage

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

6x(5x + 6) + 8(5x + 6) pulling the common 5x+6 out gives (5x + 6)(6x + 8) 5x+6 sticks with the expression ok

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

yes, it sticks

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

OH I SEE IT NOW

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

just know that math has few rules, play by those and you will be fine :)

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

"few"

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so we see that there is nothing wrong in his work, now lets try and answer A

OpenStudy (kainui):

Vicky is a guy??? :P

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

ikr thats what i was thinking .-. @Kainui

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

vicky is a guy name in india...

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

WOAH

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

ok Vicky correctly factored

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

but did she do it completely

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

hold on lemme see

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

im not sure

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yeah look at satellite's first reply

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

oh so its no

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

that is the only thing you need to answer part A

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

because there are still common factors

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yea he/she followed all the rules correctly and factored almost completely. But he/she forgot to factor the GCF for the terms in line1

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

yes so i put Vicky factored correctly, but not completely, there are still common factors for (6x + 8)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

look at the starting line1 is there anything common in all the terms ?

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

well theres 2

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes, that should be his/her first step. Instead of rushing to split that middle 76x, he should have checked for any common terms in the given expression. This should always be your first step while factoring polynomials or similar things..

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

yes correct

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

factor it completely and see what you get

ILovePuppiesLol (ilovepuppieslol):

what do u mean, the last line? or starting from first

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