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im confused
you see any common factors in \(6x+8\)? hint, both coefficients are even
2?
yes "factor it out" as the math teachers say
i don't have a teacher that i communicate with .-. online school
how do i factor it out tho @Kainui
lucky you
just change \(6x+8\) in to \(2(3x+4)\)
oh yeah
wait where did u even get 6x+8 tho
dividing the things by 6?
i didn't get it it was written in your question
the only part where i see that is in line 4
we are trying to see if she factored http://prntscr.com/atkzis correctly right
All of the steps are written out in the picture, so here's a strategy to help you figure it out: Look at step 1 and step 2. What stayed the same? What changed? The steps are reversible, can you go from step 2 to step 1? Can you go from step 1 to step 2? If you can do one of these directions you will be able to figure out how to do the reverse.
ok hold on lemme look at that
wait why did 76 split into 36 and 40 tho
i was never taught this
Replace "x" with "apples" just for your own mental satisfaction, it really doesn't change anything. Then you have 76x turning into 36x + 40x. So are 76 apples the same as 36 apples + 40 apples??
well yes
depends on what kind of apples tho
There are no apples, so it doesn't matter. You're counting number of x's not number of apples.
ok so no apples, I can see which steps are being taken to factor it
but idk if its correct or not
i know the second half is right
6x(5x + 6) directly contradicts 8(5x +6) because it is 30x^2 and the second part is just 40x
right? @Kainui
sorry if i don't know simple stuff I'm only in 9th xD
My computer died I forgot to plug it in haha. So I was just gonna say don't get confused about the notation, \(5x\) means you have literally added 5 of the xs together, that's why this is equal: \[5x=x+x+x+x+x\] Same exact thing, so I just want to make that clear, the 5x is like shorthand for writing out all 5 xs at once haha. I sure wouldn't want to write out 30x. Ok moving on, I'm not sure what you are saying about contradicts, so tell me what steps you're looking at specifically, are you looking at the step from Line 2 to Line 3 or from Line 3 to Line 4?
well we could copy n paste x + ok getting off topic, but I'm saying from line 2 to 3
since if 30x^2 + 36x would factor into 6x(5x + 6)
then it can't possibly be 40x + 48 factoring into 8(5x +6)
because the first one is squared
@Kainui
Looks you trying to match first half and second half. Why do you think they must be equal ? Only things that stand on either side of equality need to be equal. First half and second half in any expression need not be equal...
well i was just saying that the method of factoring should probably be different if its a different kind of number
but I'm no expert in math so can u teach me xD
Btw, there is a step missing between the lines 2 and 3. They skipped the grouping step and I think this is the reason his solution is confusing...
Did you get how line2 follows from the line1 ?
yes, the 76x got cut into 2 unequal pieces
Nice. He took line2 and grouped first two terms and last two terms before factoring out the GCF in each group : line2 : 30x^2 + 36x + 40x + 48 line2a : (30x^2 + 36x) + (40x + 48)
whats the GCF of the terms in first group ?
yeah the GFC
GCF*
its 6 right
6 is common from numbers what about x's ? looks you can pull out an x too
2x?
Not quite. look at the expression 30x^2 + 36x ``` 30 and 36 have 6 in common x^2 and x have x in common ``` so we can rewrite it as 6x*5x + 6x*6 pull out the common 6x and get 6x(5x + 6)
yes yes
i still don't know if she did it correctly or not xD
just to double check, multiply it and see if you get back the stuff you have started with
6x(5x + 6) = ?
30x^2+36 right @ganeshie8
that is same as the first group, so we're good. Look at second group next
OHHHH I SEE IT NOW DUDE
(30x^2 + 36x) + `(40x + 48)`
40x + 48 whats the GCF of these two terms ?
the first part had 2 x's and the second part only has 5x, UR A GENIUS
its 8
its factored correctly right
that part
yea so the second group factors as 8(5x+6)
yes it does
line2 : 30x^2 + 36x + 40x + 48 line2a : (30x^2 + 36x) + (40x + 48) line3 : 6x(5x + 6) + 8(5x + 6)
im not sure about line 4
Look at line3 now see anything common between the two groups ?
6x(5x + 6) and 8(5x + 6) take a good look, see anything common ?
5x+6
Yes pull that out, what do you get ?
6x +8?
pulling that out doesn't mean you throw that in garbage
6x(5x + 6) + 8(5x + 6) pulling the common 5x+6 out gives (5x + 6)(6x + 8) 5x+6 sticks with the expression ok
yes, it sticks
OH I SEE IT NOW
just know that math has few rules, play by those and you will be fine :)
"few"
so we see that there is nothing wrong in his work, now lets try and answer A
Vicky is a guy??? :P
ikr thats what i was thinking .-. @Kainui
vicky is a guy name in india...
WOAH
ok Vicky correctly factored
but did she do it completely
hold on lemme see
im not sure
yeah look at satellite's first reply
oh so its no
that is the only thing you need to answer part A
because there are still common factors
Yea he/she followed all the rules correctly and factored almost completely. But he/she forgot to factor the GCF for the terms in line1
yes so i put Vicky factored correctly, but not completely, there are still common factors for (6x + 8)
look at the starting line1 is there anything common in all the terms ?
well theres 2
Yes, that should be his/her first step. Instead of rushing to split that middle 76x, he should have checked for any common terms in the given expression. This should always be your first step while factoring polynomials or similar things..
yes correct
factor it completely and see what you get
what do u mean, the last line? or starting from first
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