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OpenStudy (darkigloo):

improper integral...

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

\[\int\limits_{2}^{4} \frac{ dx }{ \sqrt{4x-x ^{2}} } \]

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

how do i find if the integral diverges or converges and its value?

OpenStudy (freckles):

use a trig sub

OpenStudy (freckles):

you will need to complete the square first of course

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

how do i complete the square?

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[x^2+kx+(\frac{k}{2})^2=(x+\frac{k}{2})^2\]

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

im confused. do i have to square the square root of 4x-x^2?

OpenStudy (freckles):

how do you mean?

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[-x^2+4x=-(x^2-4x)\] \[=-(x^2-4x+?)+?\] You must complete the square to determine what trig sub to use... Do not square the square root of 4x-x^2...

OpenStudy (freckles):

have you figure out what number to replace the ? with to complete the square

OpenStudy (freckles):

see above formula if you are still having trouble figuring out the value for ?

OpenStudy (ebayminer126):

hmm

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

k/2 ?

OpenStudy (freckles):

you do realize we have 4's instead of k's right? :p

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

ohh. 2?

OpenStudy (freckles):

also it should be (k/2)^2 where k is -4

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

ohh 4?

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[-x^2+4x=-(x^2-4x) \\ =-(x^2-4x+(\frac{-4}{2})^2)+(\frac{-4}{2})^2 \\ \]

OpenStudy (freckles):

now you are above to complete the square for the x terms

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[=-(x-2)^2+(\frac{-4}{2})^2\] \[=-(x-2)^2+4\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

so your integral should look like \[\int_2^4 \frac{dx}{\sqrt{4-(x-2)^2}}\] now do a trig sub

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

\[\sqrt{a^2-x^2} ,x = a \sin \theta \] \[\sqrt{2^{2}-(x-2)^{2}} , x=2\sin \theta \] is that right? :/

OpenStudy (freckles):

not exactly you have x-2 inside the square not just x

OpenStudy (freckles):

x-2=2 sin(theta)

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

ok. x = 2 sin(theta) +2 then do i take the derivativeof that?

OpenStudy (freckles):

yes

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

=2cos(theta)

OpenStudy (freckles):

do you mean dx=2 cos(theta) d theta ?

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

ahh yes

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

and then i replace them?

OpenStudy (freckles):

you are trying to write your integral in terms of your substitution so yes don't forget to change the limits accordingly

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

do i plug in x=2sin(theta)+2 into sqrt(4-(x-2)^2 ?

OpenStudy (freckles):

you see the x-2 inside the square?

OpenStudy (freckles):

we called that 2 sin(theta) earlier ....

OpenStudy (freckles):

but yes you can replace x with 2sin(theta)+2

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

\[\int\limits_{?}^{?}\frac{ 2\cos \theta }{ \sqrt{4-(2\sin \theta)^{2}}} d \theta \] now to find the limits...

OpenStudy (freckles):

you had x=2 to x=4 and recall we made the sub x-2=2 sin(theta) solve for theta for both x's I would use the first positive theta that satisfies the equation

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

im confused :(

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

is it 0 and 1.57?

OpenStudy (freckles):

I think you mean from theta=0 to theta=pi/2

OpenStudy (freckles):

if so yes

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

im not sure how to use the identity 1-sin^2 theta = cos^2 theta

OpenStudy (freckles):

the identity still holds if you multiply both sides by 4 \[4-4 \sin^2(\theta)=4 \cos^2(\theta)\]

OpenStudy (darkigloo):

thank you. i got it. pi/2

OpenStudy (freckles):

great job

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